For all the singers out there...

eloisec · Post by **eloisec** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 11:27 am

You can photocopy music so long as it is only used for rehearsals and private practice. It should be destroyed once the concert has taken place. Never use photocopies for concerts. The cases of prosecution for this are increasing, especially for choirs. The fines are thousands of pounds.

I did the copyright policy for the concert band I play in (it's also part of my job to know about copyright yawn), and am happy to provide advice if need be.

DavebytheSea · Post by **DavebytheSea** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:22 pm

cj wrote:We ought to form a forum choir, get together every 6 months or so for a sing-song. Have whole day's practice and then a 'concert' in the evening. Sing to 3 men and a ferret in some god-forsaken church in the middle of nowhere. Or CH. Could be quite a laugh. Anyone out there who could twirl the conductor's baton? Dave BTS poss?

That's tempting!! I could do it if ever the forum choir could get together

Jude · Post by **Jude** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 3:51 pm

DavebytheSea wrote:
cj wrote:We ought to form a forum choir, get together every 6 months or so for a sing-song. Have whole day's practice and then a 'concert' in the evening. Sing to 3 men and a ferret in some god-forsaken church in the middle of nowhere. Or CH. Could be quite a laugh. Anyone out there who could twirl the conductor's baton? Dave BTS poss?
That's tempting!! I could do it if ever the forum choir could get together

David - far toooo much salt in the air in Falmouth - the general idea is that the forum gets together and sings and plays and has fun and meets all - Thanks Eloise for the offer to resolve teh copyright, all we need is the blind vote of everyones favourite 3 churchy type music and 3 fav non churchy stuff for a unique performance... I have offered (although the offer hasn't been taken up yet) to sort this - place date music required etc - please use email judeCHforum@aol.com for this as it makes the management easier! thanks

cj · Post by cj » Wed Apr 19, 2006 4:14 pm

If we're a capella then definitely some Tudor music, and some dirty madrigals. They're always quite a laugh. I have a great book called Encores for Choirs that includes Old MacDonald, Christopher Robin, Teddy Bears Picnic and various other secular pieces, and tons of anthem books of various periods. We could hire music individually from our own libraries. That might make things a bit easier.

Euterpe13 · Post by **Euterpe13** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 4:36 pm

Just as long as it's not Zadok-the-sodding-Priest - then I definitely won't turn up ! Or The Silver Swan, come to think of it...
Stainer's Crucifixion always gives you a good run for your money, and then there are all the canticles we have all sung at one time or another.

Dirty madrigals : I would go for Nina Simone here...

DavebytheSea · Post by **DavebytheSea** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:10 pm

Alas and alack - I fear we shall never agree on a short sharp program! It seems that (assuming we can ever get our act together - see other threads about other meetings where two or three have tried to gather together) we have a number of options: viz

1. Do away with any attempt at rehearsal and perform - at sight - just one item chosen by each member of the choir who shall be responsible for producing all required music for that piece. If the choir is large the concert may well be lengthy.

2. Agree to perform just one piece from as many choral genres as we can think of. The actual choice of piece to be left to the professional judgement of the conductor.

3. To revisit some items that have been perennial favourites at CH - both sacred and secular

4. To form a specialist choir to sing for example a selection of madrigals (dirty, clean and Italian) chosen by director/conductor/chorus master or possibly a lesser known Bach Cantata

5. To choose music befitting some specific event or occasion - the founding of CH? the beatification of the Prime Minister? the elevation of of JT to the order of the cherubim? removal of scaffolding from the water tower? etc etc

6. Drinking songs

and a whole host of other themed concerts.

But is there not an OB choir already?

Great Plum · Post by **Great Plum** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:52 pm

I have not heard of n OB chior else I would have been part of it...

DavebytheSea · Post by **DavebytheSea** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:04 pm

Jude wrote:
DavebytheSea wrote:
cj wrote:We ought to form a forum choir, get together every 6 months or so for a sing-song. Have whole day's practice and then a 'concert' in the evening. Sing to 3 men and a ferret in some god-forsaken church in the middle of nowhere. Or CH. Could be quite a laugh. Anyone out there who could twirl the conductor's baton? Dave BTS poss?
That's tempting!! I could do it if ever the forum choir could get together
David - far toooo much salt in the air in Falmouth - the general idea is that the forum gets together and sings and plays and has fun and meets all - Thanks Eloise for the offer to resolve teh copyright, all we need is the blind vote of everyones favourite 3 churchy type music and 3 fav non churchy stuff for a unique performance... I have offered (although the offer hasn't been taken up yet) to sort this - place date music required etc - please use email judeCHforum@aol.com for this as it makes the management easier! thanks

Dearest Jude,
You do allude
To singers, when
I think that then
You really meant
That I had lent
Too heavily upon
That thing of John
Which, though immense,
Made little sense
To us Old Blues
Who Frappr use
To try to see
Where one would be
And others too
Of Cordon Blue

So please Dear Jude
Don't think it rude
If just this time
I use this rhyme
To say to you
(A worthy Blue)
"It's not my fault!"
Just pass the salt!

Jude · Post by **Jude** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:21 pm

I refused to pass the salt to David - (see limmerick thread) have been thinking (my brain is in a bit of a mess, but I can try) how about we "Jazz" up the Votum/Carmen?? The mails can sing the one verse so manly apliccable to them - just watched the Honda advertr again - it might be a laugh!

Matt dearest Matt - (plum) even if there is an OB choir, then why are we not part of it? After all it has been accepted that we are all OB's and many of us were in the choir - some of us went of singing for a long time after - so I think we could be the Forum Choir of OB's and sing them to death!

Plus - Major worry here - why should DBTS get to choose the music? we could end up singing some very strange sea songs - nothing nearly as musical as what shall we do with the drunken sailor either....

As for us all singing a choice of songs - 1 from each of us - we could end up in the guinees book of record if this gets out and lots of OB's decide to join.... we may even sing the same thing ovver and over and over.....

What's wrong with Zadok the Priest? At least as a sop I could reach the notes, Allegri's Misereri where I ended up as treble soloist in Glos I nearly wretched as those notes are way too high!

blind vote - 3 favs CH like and 3 non churchy - pinky and perky to :
judeCHforum@aol.com - days and then I can tell you all what you voted for?

cj · Post by cj » Wed Apr 19, 2006 11:25 pm

Jude wrote:Plus - Major worry here - why should DBTS get to choose the music? we could end up singing some very strange sea songs - nothing nearly as musical as what shall we do with the drunken sailor either....

DBTS doesn't get to choose the music! I only put forward his name as baton twirler 'cos he's the only person on the forum that I've spoken to at length about music and singing and he mentioned he'd done 'it' before. Nothing has been set in stone yet, has it?

I like Zadok, it's very rousing. How about a bit of Parry Songs of Whatsit? Or "They that go down to the sea in ships"?

Jude · Post by **Jude** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:41 am

DavebytheSea wrote:2. Agree to perform just one piece from as many choral genres as we can think of. The actual choice of piece to be left to the professional judgement of the conductor.

4. To form a specialist choir to sing for example a selection of madrigals (dirty, clean and Italian) chosen by director/conductor/chorus master or possibly a lesser known Bach Cantata

6. Drinking songs

and a whole host of other themed concerts.

This is why I am worried - note the saltyness of his reply - we know he is good with a boat, others say he is good with the baton, and as conductor he is taking it upon his saltiness to chose what we sing!

I love Zadok the Priest! We could do Parry's I was Glad - glad when they said unto me, we will go, we wil go, will go into the house of the Lord... (that could mean the conductor's choice again - ie a pub!)

Richard Ruck · Post by **Richard Ruck** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:29 am

Jude wrote:...we could end up singing some very strange sea songs - nothing nearly as musical as what shall we do with the drunken sailor either....

Actually, I wouldn't mind learning a few "very strange sea songs"!

Richard Ruck · Post by **Richard Ruck** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:35 am

DavebytheSea wrote:But is there not an OB choir already?

That would be the Singing Old Blues!

http://www.chassociation.org/sections/singingobs.php

Kerren Simmonds is the person to contact.

Jude · Post by **Jude** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:52 pm

Looks and sounds like a "sob" story

I think we could have Mucho more funn!!!!

Richard Ruck · Post by **Richard Ruck** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:55 pm

Jude wrote:Looks and sounds like a "sob" story

I think we could have Mucho more funn!!!!

You could always mount a hostile takeover!