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Windows Scam warning

Post by kerrensimmonds » Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:50 pm

In case you did not know. I know three people who failed to reply to this last night (though one was close to being persuaded....), and through one of them, I learn of a sucker who did fall into the trap. It cost him £150 to get out of it....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/ne ... 637033.stm
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Re: Windows Scam warning

Post by J.R. » Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:14 pm

I suppose there must be many gullible people about.
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Post by NEILL THE NOTORIOUS » Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:57 pm

J.R. wrote:I suppose there must be many gullible people about.
Having spent years in Local Politics, I agree ! :oops:


I was warned aboit the Widows Scam, some time ago.
It is good advice -- "If you are not sure -- don't act ! "

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Post by icomefromalanddownunder » Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:33 pm

I usually hang up, but one boring, wet Saturday a few weeks ago I decided to play along with the condescending, young Indian guy who rang to tell me that my computer had been downloading damaging information without my knowledge - even at times when the computer would not have been switched on, although I never got him to confirm that.

After a great deal of piffle from both sides, he told me to hold down the Ctrl key 'That, Madam, is the key at the bottom, left hand side of your keyboard'. I began to reply that I know full well where to find the Ctrl key you condescending pra!t, when I decided to insist that I did not wish to use THAT Ctrl key, but that I wanted to use the one to the right of the keyboard.

He hung up on me.

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Re: Windows Scam warning

Post by NEILL THE NOTORIOUS » Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:58 am

TBA and I, have an "Answerepnone", which leaves a friendly message, saying we are un-available, but please leave a message, and your telephone number and we will get back to you.
This is pretty-well standard, but some of TBA's elderly (Look who's talking !) friends, have difficulty, and won't use the message facility, on the assumption that it is not "Private" --- !!!
When we hear the message, followed by an immediate "Click" it is, nearly always a caller who "Has witheld their number" Ho Ho Ho --- Bombay ??

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Re: Windows Scam warning

Post by sejintenej » Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:19 pm

NEILL THE NOTORIOUS wrote: When we hear the message, followed by an immediate "Click" it is, nearly always a caller who "Has witheld their number" Ho Ho Ho --- Bombay ??
There are handsets which show the number of the caller and I know of users who refuse to answer such calls.
IF YOU or TBA do pick up a call from one of those erks you could reply that you refuse to answer anyone whose phone number is withheld but if he/she changes his/her phone set up then he/she might be answered. (Don't say that the answer would be a belch or a very loud high-pitched whistle). They do learn eventually

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Re: Windows Scam warning

Post by cupcakemom » Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:11 pm

My mother forwarded me an e=mail on this very issue recently ....

"Unsolicited calls? The three little words are "Hold on please ...". Saying this, while putting down your phone and walking off (instead of hanging-up immediately) would make each telemarketing call so much more time consuming ... for them! Then when you eventually hear the "beep beep beep" tone, you know it's time to go back and hang up your handset. Marketing companies will soon wipe your number off their list!

"How to deal with those phone calls when there's no one on the other end ... This is a telemarketing technique where a machine makes phone calls and records the time of day when a person answers the phone. The technique is used to determine the best time of day for a "real" sales person to call back and get someone at home. What you can do after answering, if you notice there's no one on the other end, is to immediately start hitting your hash button on your phone six or seven times as quickly as possible. This confuses the machine that dialed the call and it kicks your number out of their system."

Well - it's worth a try!
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Re: Windows Scam warning

Post by LongGone » Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:52 pm

Do you not have a “Do not Call” list in the UK. This is one of the best pieces of legislation here: since it went into effect, unwanted calls virtually stopped (if they don’t, you can get $$$ from the company).
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Re: Windows Scam warning

Post by kerrensimmonds » Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:20 pm

You can sign up for 'telephone preferences', which should stop unsolicited marketing calls. But the scheme does not cover calls which come from overseas call centres....
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Re: Windows Scam warning

Post by sejintenej » Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:28 am

kerrensimmonds wrote:You can sign up for 'telephone preferences', which should stop unsolicited marketing calls. But the scheme does not cover calls which come from overseas call centres....
In addition despite signing up to TPS companies are specifically allowed to call you in "surveys" and by mentioning that the call becomes legal. In addition, when I have called TPS with all the details of such calls I have been told that if they get enough complaints then they will call the company to "advise" them - very different to taking real action to stop them pestering us. Although partially effective I still get nuisance calls from companies which claim that either they have never heard of the law or that it is a survey to see if I can be sold solar heating, electricity etc. or that they have a license to call or they don't understand enough English etc.

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Re: Windows Scam warning

Post by NEILL THE NOTORIOUS » Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:22 am

Have you noticed that several Companies are now advertising that they have "UK call centres" ----

So the "Bombay" -- sorry "Mumbai" system has been noticed as a detriment to sales ! :D :D

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Re: Windows Scam warning

Post by J.R. » Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:21 pm

NEILL THE NOTORIOUS wrote:Have you noticed that several Companies are now advertising that they have "UK call centres" ----

So the "Bombay" -- sorry "Mumbai" system has been noticed as a detriment to sales ! :D :D

.... probably more a case of not being able to comprehend the caller !
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Re: Windows Scam warning

Post by sejintenej » Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:03 pm

J.R. wrote:
NEILL THE NOTORIOUS wrote:Have you noticed that several Companies are now advertising that they have "UK call centres" ----

So the "Bombay" -- sorry "Mumbai" system has been noticed as a detriment to sales ! :D :D

.... probably more a case of not being able to comprehend the caller !
It's not only Mumbai, Durban, Sri Lanka etc; I've just had occasion to have a go at your old mob because their call centre peeps don't understand what I'm talking about because they have never (apparently) been anywhere close

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Re: Windows Scam warning

Post by NEILL THE NOTORIOUS » Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:00 pm

Yesterday at lunch-time, TBA, on your instrucions, hit the "Hash Key" about 6-8 times.
This is now standard practice for both of us ! :lol:

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Re: Windows Scam warning

Post by NEILL THE NOTORIOUS » Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:01 pm

cupcakemom wrote:My mother forwarded me an e=mail on this very issue recently ....

"Unsolicited calls? The three little words are "Hold on please ...". Saying this, while putting down your phone and walking off (instead of hanging-up immediately) would make each telemarketing call so much more time consuming ... for them! Then when you eventually hear the "beep beep beep" tone, you know it's time to go back and hang up your handset. Marketing companies will soon wipe your number off their list!

"How to deal with those phone calls when there's no one on the other end ... This is a telemarketing technique where a machine makes phone calls and records the time of day when a person answers the phone. The technique is used to determine the best time of day for a "real" sales person to call back and get someone at home. What you can do after answering, if you notice there's no one on the other end, is to immediately start hitting your hash button on your phone six or seven times as quickly as possible. This confuses the machine that dialed the call and it kicks your number out of their system."

Well - it's worth a try!

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