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Did a spybot check but no trojans - only a few tracking cookies easily disposed of (they couldn't have sent a message home in any case)
Got it now but the music almost drowns out the singing. I wouldn't have even recognised it
Got it now but the music almost drowns out the singing. I wouldn't have even recognised it
What happens if a politician drowns in a river? That is pollution.
What happens if all of them drown? That is solution!!!
What happens if all of them drown? That is solution!!!
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Failing to Praise The Lord
Alas. Still perhaps if I ever get a more complicated phone I'll do it one day!
(More dreadful worries are intruding on my wish for upgraded phone though. How to afford the dentist? I was "dentally fit" when I gave up nursing, having worked a lot of nights to achieve this. Now I need more stuff done! I shall be a toothless crone in the darkest corner of a Sunshine Home. Sorry everyone, off topic!!!)
In anxiety
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(More dreadful worries are intruding on my wish for upgraded phone though. How to afford the dentist? I was "dentally fit" when I gave up nursing, having worked a lot of nights to achieve this. Now I need more stuff done! I shall be a toothless crone in the darkest corner of a Sunshine Home. Sorry everyone, off topic!!!)
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Well, I have the whole thing beautifully recorded on mp3 (and it has been my ringtone for a year!). Before I make it accessible to all, can someone tell me if there are likely to be any copyright considerations?peter2095 wrote:Has anybody got a copy of the whole song that they could upload onto the forum from a past cd or something?
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I'm not a lawyer but it is my belief that copyright ceases after a certain time (?60 years not sure though).DavebytheSea wrote:Well, I have the whole thing beautifully recorded on mp3 (and it has been my ringtone for a year!). Before I make it accessible to all, can someone tell me if there are likely to be any copyright considerations?peter2095 wrote:Has anybody got a copy of the whole song that they could upload onto the forum from a past cd or something?
Thanks
I believe it was Rev Upcott who composed the hymn late 19th or early 20th century so I would have thought copyright would no longer apply.
Just found this site that MIGHT help. I've not looked at it in any depth.
http://www.nodanw.com/copyright/index.htm
Click on idiot's guide. No reflection on you David
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Thanks for the reference - perhaps I was right according to this.Mid A 15 wrote:I'm not a lawyer but it is my belief that copyright ceases after a certain time (?60 years not sure though).
I believe it was Rev Upcott who composed the hymn late 19th or early 20th century so I would have thought copyright would no longer apply.
Just found this site that MIGHT help. I've not looked at it in any depth.
http://www.nodanw.com/copyright/index.htm
Click on idiot's guide. No reflection on you David
OK so Upcott's work can be performed freely.
However (one third of the way down the idiots guide) if any professional musician (such as a music master arranging the piece, conducting the choir/musicians or playing an instrument) is involved then the (now) 70 years starts from the date of the recording and that professional's permission to record his/her labours is required and he may have to be paid for such permission.
There is another possibility. If you have this on a mobile phone then when it rings the music is broadcast to everyone in the railway carriage, shop or whatever. This is a bit like having a radio in an office staff coffee room; you need a broadcasting licence to have the music from the radio heard by any other person. (I kid you not - that is all too true!) I think the requirement lapses if the music/recording was produced more than 70 years ago.
I assume that with downloaded ring tones they re-record and release the broadcast rights or otherwise get round the rules - you have to check the laws which are generally outside my ken. (I was involved when the question of the radio in our office rest room was raised so I know about that)
Complicated? Yes -and I've hardly started!
No reflection on you Andy You don't have a twisted mind (and I'm sure that will come back to haunt me)
I've got so many tee shirts from looking at all the twists and turns all the time I can't think straight any more. I spent a couple of hours this afternoon considering the jurisprudence relating to the current complaints about bank charges. Based on existing case law most customers probably don't have a foot to stand on (but get me representing the customer I can twist even that the other way round in three legal systems)
As for refusing to let a London cabbie carry out an on-the-spot medical examination on you if you are 18 or 78, female and/or attractive - well, just don't try to refuse if you know what's good for you!
What happens if a politician drowns in a river? That is pollution.
What happens if all of them drown? That is solution!!!
What happens if all of them drown? That is solution!!!
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Thanks everybody. Having read all of that (including the idiot's guide). I suspect that there is a copyright in the recording if not in the words and music. (Apparently the very reverend Dean Upcott, God rest his soul, was a beater of great prowess and frequency as well as a author/composer of that wonderful hymn. I'm sure he won't mind, but what about his successors ..... ?)
Erring possibly on the side of safety, I am not willing to publish my recording here; however, if anyone cares to PM me ...........
(Mod: ......then I will of course reply saying I couldn't possibly share this copyright material!)
Erring possibly on the side of safety, I am not willing to publish my recording here; however, if anyone cares to PM me ...........
(Mod: ......then I will of course reply saying I couldn't possibly share this copyright material!)
David Eastburn (Prep B and Mid A 1947-55)