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Problem - Running out of space on the CH Forum - ideas?

Post by jtaylor » Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:47 pm

We're reaching the limits of our current hosting, and will need to do something quite soon.....

We're using 94Meg of the 100Meg available for the database size, and we're using a lot more bandwidth than they appear to allow for, and I've had an email from 1and1 saying we're slowing down the shared-hosting server we're running on.

We have a number of options, some of which I'm already looking at.

1. We could move the hosting onto a dedicated server, which can cope with the load, staying with 1and1 (easy to do) - but this looks like £82.24 per month, rather than the £10.56 currently.
2. We could look at other hosting companies, and see what they can offer? I have a friend who runs one, who I'm already talking to.
3. Are there any Old Blues out there who are in hosting companies, who could provide us with a package of some sort?

All ideas welcome....

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Re: Problem - Running out of space on the CH Forum - ideas?

Post by Mid A 15 » Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:28 pm

My computing knowledge is negligible and if written down would leave room on a postage stamp.

However as a layman would it be possible to free up capacity by archiving some of the stuff to an alternative server?

Up to the end of 2006 for example just picking an arbitary date.

If that is possible I guess the problem becomes one of accessing the archive for ordinary members.
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Re: Problem - Running out of space on the CH Forum - ideas?

Post by jhopgood » Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:01 am

Do we know how much space is used by photos? I assume it could be a reasonable amount.
If so, can we find a photo server host, put them there and link through from here?
It would also be interesting to know if the actual hosts feel we are overactive users compared to other forums, and what others have done in these circumstances.
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Re: Problem - Running out of space on the CH Forum - ideas?

Post by englishangel » Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:27 am

This is actually quite a small forum compared to others I have seen (my offspring use them rather than me) so I would have thought a move was possible. As for photos, I don't think they are hosted on here are they? Mine are on photobucket.

Apart from that I am with MidA though I coulfd possibly use a large stamp rather than a small one.
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Post by jtaylor » Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:19 pm

jhopgood wrote:Do we know how much space is used by photos? I assume it could be a reasonable amount.
If so, can we find a photo server host, put them there and link through from here?
It would also be interesting to know if the actual hosts feel we are overactive users compared to other forums, and what others have done in these circumstances.
The photos are separate from the database, even if they're hosted on the 1and1 hosting.
The issue is with the database, which stores all the posts, forum topics, PMs etc. etc

I've been investigating another hosting option which a colleague at work runs.
He can provide the hosting we need, with no unreasonable limits on the database/queries.
This would normally cost £299 per year. He's giving me 1/3rd off, so we'd be looking at £200 for the year, ideally paid up-front for the year (minimises his admin costs)

So, we'll be looking at moving from £10.56 per month to £19.50 per month....and this would future-proof us easily and quickly. I'd prefer to go with someone I know.

I've not checked the accounts recently, but would guess we might be around £80 in debt (will check tonight).

So, can we raise around £200 in the next week or so in donations, and ideally £280 to include the current debt???

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Post by jhopgood » Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:45 pm

I would be happy to pay the month of December
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Post by CHAZ » Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:27 pm

Let me know how to wire some funds from Lux! IBAN works well for me here.
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Post by icomefromalanddownunder » Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:00 pm

Julian, do you have a PayPal account?

I still owe you for last year :oops: I got paid today, so please get in quickly (before the Vet, my daughter, ...........................) :D

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Post by J.R. » Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:31 pm

Julian.

I think I still have your address and would happily forward more funds next week, (on receipt of my Government pittance !)

Let me know on here or by pm.

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Post by gma » Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:51 pm

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Post by Katharine » Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:57 pm

I thought there used to be a button to enable a Paypal donation? I can't find it now, I would be happy top send some more money.
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Re: Problem - Running out of space on the CH Forum - ideas?

Post by matthew » Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:23 pm

100Mb is nothing. It's hard to find a cell phone with that little storage.

Bandwidth might be more of an issue. Do you know how much we're talking about?

Have 1and1 given any indication as to the specs of their shared server and what proportion of its resources we're consuming?

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Post by cstegerlewis » Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:45 pm

Most other forums I am on have a rule that if a topic hasn't been touched for 12 months it is archived (except technical queries) - however with this particular forum I think that means we coul dend up with repeat threads, so it might not help.

Has the school got a server with the odd couple of terabytes handy?
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Re: Problem - Running out of space on the CH Forum - ideas?

Post by matthew » Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:07 pm

cstegerlewis wrote:Most other forums I am on have a rule that if a topic hasn't been touched for 12 months it is archived (except technical queries) - however with this particular forum I think that means we coul dend up with repeat threads, so it might not help.

Has the school got a server with the odd couple of terabytes handy?
'Archived' still means the thread is stored somewhere. But I really think storage is the least of the issues mentioned, and certainly the easiest to fix. Performance and bandwidth (really, network usage) can be more problematic.

About this 'no unreasonable limits' thing: there are always limits. 'Unlimited' means that the service provider is unable or unwilling to tell you what they are. So you still need to figure out what the forum's processing and network requirements are and check with the provider that they won't be a problem.

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Re: Problem - Running out of space on the CH Forum - ideas?

Post by jtaylor » Fri Aug 15, 2008 7:37 am

I think that we're up against 1and1's cost model, which relies on shared servers with low usage - i.e. mainly only basic websites without lots of hits and lots of SQL queries being run. The hosting package clearly states 110Meg as the Datasase limit (posts, topics etc.), and 4Gig for file storage (i.e. photos, homepage etc. etc.)
We'll be reaching the 100Meg limit soon, so we need to move one way or the other.
The main issue is one of queries taking up server resources - this is therefore slowing down other users, which breaches their policy.
Most other large forums are probably hosted on more dedicated servers.

Thanks for the kind offers of funding - this is great, and very generous.
Before people actually donate anything, I'd like to suggest that I invite pledges via PM - once we then know the total we can gather, I can say "go" and ask for the money?
I suggest we aim for a target of £300, and anything over what we actually need now will go towards next year's costs? We'll need a minimum of £200 per year to continue to host the forum.
I'm also open to sponsorship offers, if there's a company who would like a "Funded By XXXX" logo at the top of the page, with a link to their site??

PM me with you pledge amount
Target £300
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