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Euterpe13 · Post by **Euterpe13** » Mon May 08, 2006 3:23 pm

So p.m. it to those of us with notoriously dirty minds !

englishangel · Post by **englishangel** » Mon May 08, 2006 6:15 pm

I think the Sin of Onan was actually contraception by withdrawal, if you can call withdrawal contraception. Hence the RCs opposition to contraception.

Euterpe13 · Post by **Euterpe13** » Mon May 08, 2006 7:05 pm

englishangel wrote:I think the Sin of Onan was actually contraception by withdrawal, if you can call withdrawal contraception. Hence the RCs opposition to contraception.

More exactly, the " spilling of his seed on the ground" , which in time was also assimilated with masturbation. It was a sin in the case of Onan because by withdrawing he disobeyed God , who had ordered him to get his brother's wife pregnant - and was duly killed for it !

englishangel · Post by **englishangel** » Mon May 08, 2006 7:23 pm

That was what I meant.

J.R. · Post by **J.R.** » Tue May 09, 2006 9:49 am

So 'onanism', (if that IS a word), must refer only to the male of the species !

The obvious quetion, therefore, is what is the biblical term for what the females of the species do ?

(Euterpe13: PM on the way, as requested !)

Euterpe13 · Post by **Euterpe13** » Tue May 09, 2006 10:32 am

There is no female biblical term, as women do not " spill their seed"...
sorry to disappoint you !

J.R. · Post by **J.R.** » Tue May 09, 2006 10:40 am

I'm not going to get drawn further into this conversation...............

apart from................................

Is this also why Queen Victoria said lesbianism didn't exist ?

Euterpe13 · Post by **Euterpe13** » Tue May 09, 2006 11:55 am

exactly, she refused to believe that it existed - which is why male homosexuality was illegal for decades, whilst the female leaning was not...

J.R. · Post by **J.R.** » Tue May 09, 2006 11:59 am

Euterpe13 wrote:exactly, she refused to believe that it existed - which is why male homosexuality was illegal for decades, whilst the female leaning was not...

........ and I never realised you had to lean !!!!