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- Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:30 am
- Forum: Abuse cases and related discussions
- Topic: Dobbie sentencing hearing
- Replies: 93
- Views: 48462
Re: Dobbie sentencing hearing
From my layman's viewpoint, the purposes of sentencing are threefold: punishment, deterrence and the removal of dangerous people from society. Is this the way it actually works? Is the last, which is the most important, the most difficult to achieve? Would a 25 year old serial offender receive a lon...
- Tue May 21, 2019 1:55 pm
- Forum: Abuse cases and related discussions
- Topic: Sheila and Peter Higgins - character references for Gary Dobbie
- Replies: 58
- Views: 26114
Re: Sheila and Peter Higgins - character references for Gary Dobbie
I cant answer this question but my guess would be that it was a relatively small number. I think he was universally seen as weird, but in a funny rather than dangerous way. I can look back on his behavior, particularly interacting with us in the trebles, and see flags but as 11 or 12 years old we w...
- Tue May 21, 2019 1:29 pm
- Forum: Abuse cases and related discussions
- Topic: Sheila and Peter Higgins - character references for Gary Dobbie
- Replies: 58
- Views: 26114
Re: Sheila and Peter Higgins - character references for Gary Dobbie
There are two fundamental rules which underscore the admissibility of evidence in a criminal trial: (i) it must be relevant; and (ii) its probative value must outweigh its prejudicial effect. Evidence such as: "I always got on well with him and found him a sympathetic listener" is unlikel...
- Mon May 20, 2019 1:53 pm
- Forum: Abuse cases and related discussions
- Topic: Sheila and Peter Higgins - character references for Gary Dobbie
- Replies: 58
- Views: 26114
Re: Sheila and Peter Higgins - character references for Gary Dobbie
The devil's in the details here, surely. On the one hand the Higginses may said something as relatively harmless as "I always got on well with him and found him a sympathetic listener". The other extreme would be a blind refusal to even entertain the idea that Dobbie (as a man of the cloth...
- Sun May 05, 2019 1:30 pm
- Forum: Abuse cases and related discussions
- Topic: Dates of birth of convicted abusers
- Replies: 45
- Views: 15619
Re: Dates of birth of convicted abusers
Hi Craig,
Sent you a PM. Not sure if it's actually got to you - seems to be stuck in my outbox.
Cheers,
Sent you a PM. Not sure if it's actually got to you - seems to be stuck in my outbox.
Cheers,
- Sat May 04, 2019 11:52 pm
- Forum: Abuse cases and related discussions
- Topic: Dates of birth of convicted abusers
- Replies: 45
- Views: 15619
- Sat May 04, 2019 11:42 pm
- Forum: Abuse cases and related discussions
- Topic: Dates of birth of convicted abusers
- Replies: 45
- Views: 15619
Re: Dates of birth of convicted abusers
So were Dobbie and Husband actually connected together as part of the case?
I'm not trying to belittle the offences nor the damage done to the victims in any way. Being half a world away makes it difficult to understand what's fact and what's conjecture.
Thanks,
Max
I'm not trying to belittle the offences nor the damage done to the victims in any way. Being half a world away makes it difficult to understand what's fact and what's conjecture.
Thanks,
Max
- Sat May 04, 2019 11:02 pm
- Forum: Abuse cases and related discussions
- Topic: Dates of birth of convicted abusers
- Replies: 45
- Views: 15619
Re: Dates of birth of convicted abusers
With the exception of Burr and Webb, the perpetrators are all quite different. Burr and Webb appear to have preyed upon their victims in secret. Husband committed very serious offences against one person, while Karim's offences - vile though they were - appear to have been more indecent rather than ...
- Sat May 04, 2019 12:54 pm
- Forum: Abuse cases and related discussions
- Topic: Trial of Gary William Dobbie
- Replies: 328
- Views: 118225
Re: Trial of Gary William Dobbie
Gunning was assistant housemaster in Mid A until about 87? Then Frank McKenna took over as assistant. Mike "Taffy" Williams was housemaster at least all the time I was in Mid A (85-89) and probably a year or so before that. Dr Chapman (from South Africa) took over, but not sure for how lon...
- Sun Apr 28, 2019 1:18 pm
- Forum: Abuse cases and related discussions
- Topic: Trial of Gary William Dobbie
- Replies: 328
- Views: 118225
Re: Trial of Gary William Dobbie
The sermon was very long, and very boring. Over thirty years ago now, obviously (and that's just when he finished!), and I have little recollection of what he talked about. I don't think I understood any of it at the time, to be honest - it probably went well over my head. I do remember that there w...
- Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:46 pm
- Forum: General Chat - Non CH
- Topic: Historic methods of punishment
- Replies: 15
- Views: 9375
Re: Historic methods of punishment
The main Nuremberg criminals (Frank, Keitel, Streicher, etc) were executed by an American - Woods, IIRC - and the story is that the executions were botched, with many of the hanged men dying from strangulation. There's also speculation out there (everything is true on the internet, obviously) that t...