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by richardb
Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:29 pm
Forum: Abuse cases and related discussions
Topic: Roger Martin - trial
Replies: 320
Views: 228005

Re: Roger Martin - trial

The experience lives in the memory and seems to become more traumatic to recall as time passes. There are well established procedures now for investigating historic sex abuse. The police will gather up educational, medical and social services records. These will be scrutinised to see if the matters ...
by richardb
Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:39 am
Forum: Abuse cases and related discussions
Topic: Roger Martin - trial
Replies: 320
Views: 228005

Re: Roger Martin - trial

There were other aspects of his behaviour that were inappropriate. They all involved naked boys.
by richardb
Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:06 am
Forum: Abuse cases and related discussions
Topic: Roger Martin - trial
Replies: 320
Views: 228005

Re: Roger Martin - trial

He wasn't convicted of filming boys. That was relevant to show that Martin had an inappropriate interest in boys.

He was convicted of putting the pupil in his [Martin's] own bed and then touching his penis. The boy was 10 and very homesick.

That was demonstrably inappropriate, even in 1976.
by richardb
Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:37 am
Forum: Abuse cases and related discussions
Topic: Roger Martin - trial
Replies: 320
Views: 228005

Re: Roger Martin - trial

There can be no denying that historical cases are extremely hard to investigate and successfully prosecute, One of the features of historic cases is that the victim has not suddenly got the idea in their head that they have been abused. Very often, the victim has disclsoed to family/friends/profess...
by richardb
Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:33 am
Forum: Abuse cases and related discussions
Topic: Roger Martin - trial
Replies: 320
Views: 228005

Re: Roger Martin - trial

One needs to be very careful about impugning the verdict in Martin's trial. He was unanimously convicted by the jury. You seemed somewhat less convinced as to the validity of the jury's verdict in my case, when invited to uphold it by 'yamaha', I seem to recall. Odd. It would help greatly to know w...
by richardb
Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:22 am
Forum: Abuse cases and related discussions
Topic: Roger Martin - trial
Replies: 320
Views: 228005

Re: Roger Martin - trial

One needs to be very careful about impugning the verdict in Martin's trial. He was unanimously convicted by the jury.
by richardb
Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:33 pm
Forum: Abuse cases and related discussions
Topic: Roger Martin - trial
Replies: 320
Views: 228005

Re: Roger Martin - trial

DazedandConfused wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:31 pm I keep coming back to the cycling shorts parties and I’m surprised there haven’t been arrests yet.
Me too.
by richardb
Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:25 pm
Forum: Abuse cases and related discussions
Topic: Roger Martin - trial
Replies: 320
Views: 228005

Re: Roger Martin - trial

There are two that could happen. They were at the cycling shorts parties.

Otherwise I would have thought the investigation has probably run its course.

The publicity means that anyone likely to come forward probably has.
by richardb
Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:17 pm
Forum: Abuse cases and related discussions
Topic: Roger Martin - trial
Replies: 320
Views: 228005

Re: Roger Martin - trial

One of the difficulties is that Webb and Burr in the 70s appear to have been lone wolves while Dobbie, Husband etc seem to have been part of a ring. Webb, for example, may have interfered with every boy in the dormitory, while Dobbie and Co seem to have targeted specific individuals. Factor in that ...
by richardb
Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:33 pm
Forum: Abuse cases and related discussions
Topic: Roger Martin - trial
Replies: 320
Views: 228005

Re: Roger Martin - trial

Webb then.

We know that was covered up too.
by richardb
Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:19 pm
Forum: Abuse cases and related discussions
Topic: Roger Martin - trial
Replies: 320
Views: 228005

Re: Roger Martin - trial

The starting point could be Karim. We know that was covered up.
by richardb
Sat Jul 06, 2019 1:03 pm
Forum: Abuse cases and related discussions
Topic: Roger Martin - trial
Replies: 320
Views: 228005

Re: Roger Martin - trial

The usual stuff from the school.

Has any other school ever had so many teachers convicted of sexual offences against pupils?
by richardb
Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:02 am
Forum: General Chat - CH Stuff
Topic: Photograph of Ernest Richard McCall
Replies: 19
Views: 7256

Re: Photograph of Ernest Richard McCall

He has been the subject of report to the police Spoony.
by richardb
Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:50 am
Forum: General Chat - CH Stuff
Topic: Photograph of Ernest Richard McCall
Replies: 19
Views: 7256

Re: Photograph of Ernest Richard McCall

The photo IS of McCall.
by richardb
Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:16 am
Forum: Abuse cases and related discussions
Topic: Roger Martin - trial
Replies: 320
Views: 228005

Re: Roger Martin - trial

Some explanation of Martin's sentence.

To arrive at a sentence of 4 years, the judge must have accepted that the victim was caused severe psychological harm and that Martin acted in abuse of trust.

This probably explains why the sentencing part of the hearing took nearly an hour.