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OK. But people from minority backgrounds have also benefitted from those same systems and opportunities in the US and in the UK. It's one thing to rail against how those systems came into being etc, but it's another thing to be blinded to the fact that those opportunities are open to all (?) I'm cu...

An employment agency told me that 80% of places are filled through word of mouth. a) employ someone through an agency then you have to pay the agency - OK that is acceptable if you do not get someone another way b) you have two applicants in front of you; one is recommended by one of your staff and...

You seem to view this in solely 'Black' VS 'White' terms - what about the others...? Correction: We live in a world plagued by the impact of history in general. Groups in the US and the UK who, for whatever reasons, perform well, tend to focus less on the alleged racial inequity You're absolutely c...

Incidentally, interesting to see that this conversation is being tracked by a US outfit. Big brother is watching! Remember 1984 Are you sure you're not seeing my US IP address popping up? Anyways, everything on the internet is monitored - I'm not sure a bunch of former public school kids discussing...

Ahh.! so the Chump should ban the employment of whites????????? that is affirmative action but the hidden KKK would never allow it. A bit like a modern day Sherman marching through Georgia. Incidentally, interesting to see that this conversation is being tracked by a US outfit. No one is calling fo...

Pe.A wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:03 pm

Otter wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:10 am It's rather disheartening seeing people who claim to be against racism and discrimination in general, who seem to have broad life experiences etc, but use multiple terms that are at best outdated and ignorant, and at worst racial or other slurs.

Intent...?

... does not equal impact!!

Graham. I thought that I had made my views perfectly plain. I do not consider white, black, brown, yellow, round eyes or narrowed eyes, male female or hermaphrodites differently. I do object to green martians however. I view with disgust the actions of certain police of various nationalities who ac...

I think Graham is trying to find offence wherever he can! I have been living abroad for 45 years, I quite regularly get asked where I come from because I still have a slight accent. I have never felt that anyone is trying to tell me that " you're not one of us". On the contrary it is a go...

Getting back to title track, David I posted my definition of systemic racism and I maintain this is a real problem for the Black community in the UK that requires fixing predominantly by the white majority. I am still curious to hear your take on this very specific problem that is, after all, the ro...

Ignorant, racist, both or neither? I very recently attended a chinese burial in Harlow for a friend who was born and bred there. Like all his siblings and cousins, he had been fluent in chinese and spoke english like any person born here. "We was going to go to the seaside but it rained" ...

The problem is differences. If someone tries to speak to you in Geordie or Glaswegian what is your reaction? In Brazil I had problems with one boss because we spoke different Portuguese dialects. He knew I baited him because I could switch from Carioca to (poor) Paulistano! Otherwise we were friend...

Define SYSTEMIC racism. The definition I found (ignoring one specifically medical) was " relating to a system, especially as opposed to a particular part".. That's a good definition of "systemic" as an adjective. I'll give you Sir William Macpherson's definition applying it to r...

I have already stated that I consider "culture" in its widest form a basic. 1. Define the final outcome, Do you want everybody to be kind and polite and helpful to everybody's grannies and pet mouses or do you want to go to a loud mouthed foul language using yob culture of "everybody...

Not sure how to take your second para; you seem to be damning the idea of employing people just to get the proportions right???? Not at all. With a caveat. If an organization recognizes that its hiring policies have resulted in an employee demographic that is racially biased, adjusting hiring polic...

I correspond almost daily with Americans from across that country; even within the USA cultures are extremely varied and many that I have encountered have been very different from most UK cultures. Hence I think we have to consider the two countries differently and the US is so vast with so many di...