Teaching staff

Anything that doesn't fit anywhere else, but that's still CH related.

Moderator: Moderators

richardb
Forum Moderator
Posts: 811
Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2005 2:23 pm
Real Name: Richard Bloomfield
Location: Tyne and Wear
Has thanked: 488 times
Been thanked: 405 times

Teaching staff

Post by richardb » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:00 am

To satisfy myself that I don't know any of the current teaching staff, I had a scroll through the list.

I was astonished to see that there is only one member of staff for Computer Studies.

There is an increasing need for the professions to have computer skills. It is impossible to practice law without an increasing level of ability.

A bit worrying that the school. Isn't up with the times.

DazedandConfused
Deputy Grecian
Posts: 252
Joined: Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:20 pm
Real Name: J
Has thanked: 97 times
Been thanked: 137 times

Re: Teaching staff

Post by DazedandConfused » Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:56 am

I’m astounded that I recognise 14 names on the staff list given I left more than 20 years ago.

dsmg
UF (Upper Fourth)
Posts: 90
Joined: Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:55 pm
Real Name: daniel
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 11 times

Re: Teaching staff

Post by dsmg » Mon Jul 23, 2018 7:25 am

Not that surprising Dazed as a normal working life lasts at least 35 years.
Play up Pompey!

User avatar
jtaylor
Forum Administrator
Posts: 1821
Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2004 12:32 am
Real Name: Julian Taylor
Location: Wantage, OXON
Has thanked: 59 times
Been thanked: 303 times
Contact:

Re: Teaching staff

Post by jtaylor » Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:05 am

Modern teaching embeds IT in almost every subject, so the core IT skills will be being taught within every lesson by all teachers, and most likely most prep will be being done on-screen, submitted electronically to the teacher, marked on-screen, and returned to students via their online account.
Any dedicated IT teaching will likely be for a specific IT GCSE or similar I’d expect - hence only one teacher?

Having said that, the teaching of actual computer programming and the purer IT technical skills (ie how it works, how to write the code, rather than just using other people’s software) is often lacking - almost all kids are “digital natives” these days, having had devices from an early age, so are fairly proficient IT users - but very few have the opportunity to learn coding, and the true technical creativity and excitement of that.

Not sure what CH teaches in that arena today....
These users thanked the author jtaylor for the post (total 2):
Avon (Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:33 am) • richardb (Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:44 am)
Rating: 11.76%
Julian Taylor-Gadd
Leigh Hunt 1985-1992
Image
Founder of The Unofficial CH Forum
http://www.grovegeeks.co.uk - IT Support and website design for home, small businesses and charities.

richardb
Forum Moderator
Posts: 811
Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2005 2:23 pm
Real Name: Richard Bloomfield
Location: Tyne and Wear
Has thanked: 488 times
Been thanked: 405 times

Re: Teaching staff

Post by richardb » Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:46 am

Julian, I can understand that a lot of kids are self taught as indeed am I. But sometimes I wish that there was someone who would teach me not just how to do things properly but short cuts.

In the crown court about 99% of the case papers are delivered through the cloud. It is embarrassing to watch as some struggle even to switch the laptop on.

DazedandConfused
Deputy Grecian
Posts: 252
Joined: Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:20 pm
Real Name: J
Has thanked: 97 times
Been thanked: 137 times

Re: Teaching staff

Post by DazedandConfused » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:35 am

dsmg wrote:
Mon Jul 23, 2018 7:25 am
Not that surprising Dazed as a normal working life lasts at least 35 years.
As a teenager I saw all teachers as being ancient and assumed they had retired years ago. In reality, those still teaching would likely have been younger than I am now when they taught me.

Jim Rayner
LE (Little Erasmus)
Posts: 56
Joined: Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:49 pm
Real Name: Jim Rayner
Has thanked: 51 times
Been thanked: 79 times

Re: Teaching staff

Post by Jim Rayner » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:43 am

By heck, when I were a lad doing Maths A level with Ivor McConnell, there was an arrangement with Imperial College who allowed us computer time. We could write programs in something called Fortran 4 and put them onto punchcards using a small bodkin to push out perforated chads. The cards would go off in the post and if you were really lucky the following Wednesday you'd get your cards back along with a 100 yards of green listing paper.

I knew then it would never catch on.
These users thanked the author Jim Rayner for the post:
richardb (Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:50 am)
Rating: 5.88%
LHA 67-70; ThA 70-74

User avatar
jtaylor
Forum Administrator
Posts: 1821
Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2004 12:32 am
Real Name: Julian Taylor
Location: Wantage, OXON
Has thanked: 59 times
Been thanked: 303 times
Contact:

Re: Teaching staff

Post by jtaylor » Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:04 am

That sounds like playing postal chess, of which my dad was an avid player. Make a move, write it on a postcard, post it to your opponent, who played the move, and responded in kind. LOTS of thinking time - not sure how much that helped, particularly in the end-game when you were getting soundly thrashed, and the pain was so long and drawn out!
Julian Taylor-Gadd
Leigh Hunt 1985-1992
Image
Founder of The Unofficial CH Forum
http://www.grovegeeks.co.uk - IT Support and website design for home, small businesses and charities.

User avatar
LongGone
Deputy Grecian
Posts: 331
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:17 pm
Real Name: Mike Adams
Location: New England
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 6 times

Re: Teaching staff

Post by LongGone » Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:20 am

Jim Rayner wrote:
Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:43 am
By heck, when I were a lad doing Maths A level with Ivor McConnell, there was an arrangement with Imperial College who allowed us computer time. We could write programs in something called Fortran 4 and put them onto punchcards using a small bodkin to push out perforated chads. The cards would go off in the post and if you were really lucky the following Wednesday you'd get your cards back along with a 100 yards of green listing paper.

I knew then it would never catch on.
I was more likely to get back a couple of inches of paper that said “SYNTAX ERROR LINE 1: PROGRAM TERMINATED”
These users thanked the author LongGone for the post:
richardb (Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:29 am)
Rating: 5.88%
If a stone falls on an egg: alas for the egg
If an egg falls on a stone: alas for the egg

User avatar
marty
Grecian
Posts: 819
Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2005 1:29 pm
Real Name: Marty E
Location: Buckinghamshire
Has thanked: 52 times
Been thanked: 102 times

Re: Teaching staff

Post by marty » Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:06 am

LongGone wrote:
Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:20 am
Jim Rayner wrote:
Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:43 am
By heck, when I were a lad doing Maths A level with Ivor McConnell, there was an arrangement with Imperial College who allowed us computer time. We could write programs in something called Fortran 4 and put them onto punchcards using a small bodkin to push out perforated chads. The cards would go off in the post and if you were really lucky the following Wednesday you'd get your cards back along with a 100 yards of green listing paper.

I knew then it would never catch on.
I was more likely to get back a couple of inches of paper that said “SYNTAX ERROR LINE 1: PROGRAM TERMINATED”
Is that the analogue precursor to turning it off and on again?
My therapist says I have a preoccupation with vengeance. We’ll see about that.

User avatar
jhopgood
Button Grecian
Posts: 1781
Joined: Mon Jun 07, 2004 6:26 pm
Real Name: John Hopgood
Location: Valencia
Has thanked: 12 times
Been thanked: 6 times

Re: Teaching staff

Post by jhopgood » Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:13 pm

Jim Rayner wrote:
Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:43 am
By heck, when I were a lad doing Maths A level with Ivor McConnell, there was an arrangement with Imperial College who allowed us computer time. We could write programs in something called Fortran 4 and put them onto punchcards using a small bodkin to push out perforated chads. The cards would go off in the post and if you were really lucky the following Wednesday you'd get your cards back along with a 100 yards of green listing paper.

I knew then it would never catch on.
At Nottingham University we wrote in Egdon Algol, I think. Again cards and reams of paper.
I remember going to a computer exhibition in Olympia in the '60's, when the rage was accounting information on a magnetic strip down the side of the card. A very large card onto which was typed the information.
One of our managers was a bit sceptical, claimed his staff were liable to do things wrong, and asked what would happen if the card were inserted upside down, and was told that "Nothing".
He asked for a demonstration and "Nothing" was not the correct answer.
Confusion for the salesman and open mirth from us.
These users thanked the author jhopgood for the post:
richardb (Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:15 pm)
Rating: 5.88%
Barnes B 25 (59 - 66)

Katharine
Button Grecian
Posts: 3077
Joined: Mon Dec 26, 2005 10:44 pm
Real Name: Katharine Dobson
Location: Gwynedd
Has thanked: 77 times
Been thanked: 43 times

Re: Teaching staff

Post by Katharine » Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:28 pm

We used Fortran at Oxford, it wasn’t part of the regular Maths degree but I did a couple of courses in it. We wrote our programs, took them to the computer building, where we handed them in, always in Dr Smith’s name. The computer wasn’t for mere undergraduates. The following day, we went to collect them, still in the name of Dr Smith, almost always given back with a comment to the effect that Dr Smith always made very basic errors!
Katharine Dobson (Hills) 6.14, 1959 - 1965
Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia!

User avatar
J.R.
Forum Moderator
Posts: 15630
Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:53 pm
Real Name: John Rutley
Location: Dorking, Surrey
Has thanked: 298 times
Been thanked: 176 times

Re: Teaching staff

Post by J.R. » Mon Jul 23, 2018 3:35 pm

All this computer talk. No 'puters in my time at school. No calculators either.

I'm trying to discover what the 'cloud' is all about these days. No good apparently, until it rains though or so I'm told.

I'm going to dust my trusty abacus off and see if it's worth anything on 'Floggit' !.
These users thanked the author J.R. for the post:
richardb (Mon Jul 23, 2018 3:55 pm)
Rating: 5.88%
John Rutley. Prep B & Coleridge B. 1958-1963.

User avatar
jtaylor
Forum Administrator
Posts: 1821
Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2004 12:32 am
Real Name: Julian Taylor
Location: Wantage, OXON
Has thanked: 59 times
Been thanked: 303 times
Contact:

Re: Teaching staff

Post by jtaylor » Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:08 pm

The Cloud = "someone else's computer". No more complex than that really!
Julian Taylor-Gadd
Leigh Hunt 1985-1992
Image
Founder of The Unofficial CH Forum
http://www.grovegeeks.co.uk - IT Support and website design for home, small businesses and charities.

User avatar
J.R.
Forum Moderator
Posts: 15630
Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:53 pm
Real Name: John Rutley
Location: Dorking, Surrey
Has thanked: 298 times
Been thanked: 176 times

Re: Teaching staff

Post by J.R. » Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:20 pm

Think I'll join 'The Whirlwind' then.

I've now been looking closely into 'The Cloud'. Still no bl00dy rain.
John Rutley. Prep B & Coleridge B. 1958-1963.

Post Reply