Why does Eton make headlines....?

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Why does Eton make headlines....?

Post by jtaylor » Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:16 pm

Why does Eton make headlines for this:-
Eton College to offer 12 free sixth form places https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-48902808
when CH has been doing WAY more than this for years?
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Re: Why does Eton make headlines....?

Post by rockfreak » Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:27 pm

Eton is part of the establishment and many of today's well-off and well-connected send their children there. As do some of those who work in the top echelons of the media and send their kids to these places. They have a vested interest in bigging up the top fee-paying, boarding schools.

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Re: Why does Eton make headlines....?

Post by Great Plum » Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:02 pm

jtaylor wrote:
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Why does Eton make headlines for this:-
Eton College to offer 12 free sixth form places https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-48902808
when CH has been doing WAY more than this for years?
Maybe it’s because Eton is on a massive pr exercise as they are worried about the next PM?
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Re: Why does Eton make headlines....?

Post by J.R. » Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:37 pm

Julian.
Could I point out a spelling typo in the thread title ?
I could edit but feel you should.
(Thanks - well spotted - now fixed! J)
Anyway, Eton is only for the privelidged few.
I await Freaky's opinion.
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Re: Why does Eton make headlines....?

Post by jtaylor » Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:46 am

I wonder how the majority of Eton boys will treat their “charity-kids”?? I recall how other independent schools used to call us The Paupers, but how the local state schools used to call as the posh toffs.

One of the great things about CH was that none of us knew (at least in the first year or so) who was from a well off background, and who not. A great leveller.
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Re: Why does Eton make headlines....?

Post by Foureyes » Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:06 am

I once saw a splendid Eton-related put-down. It was a BBC Question Time, with Dimblebore as chairman and Rees-Mogg as one of the panelists. The subject of Eton was being discussed and Dimblebore made a very disparaging comment on the school and parents who were well-off sending their children there. He then turned to R-M : "I believe that you were there?" "Yes," replied R-M, unperturbed as always, "in fact, I was there at the same time as your son." The chairman then very quickly turned discussion to the next item on the agenda!!
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Re: Why does Eton make headlines....?

Post by J.R. » Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:34 pm

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Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:06 am
I once saw a splendid Eton-related put-down. It was a BBC Question Time, with Dimblebore as chairman and Rees-Mogg as one of the panelists. The subject of Eton was being discussed and Dimblebore made a very disparaging comment on the school and parents who were well-off sending their children there. He then turned to R-M : "I believe that you were there?" "Yes," replied R-M, unperturbed as always, "in fact, I was there at the same time as your son." The chairman then very quickly turned discussion to the next item on the agenda!!
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I remember that occasion well.
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Re: Why does Eton make headlines....?

Post by postwarblue » Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:18 pm

The point seems to be that Eton is offering VI form scholarships per se. It already has a core of scholarship boys and that has always been the case. Notoriously, the magic Boris was one of them, in distinction to Cameron who was a 'paid' entrant. The assumption that only rich kids can get there is therefore false although repeated often enough by the unthinking or terminally biased. The scholarship system ensures Eton a supply of the very bright as well as the moneyed (and probably helps with league tables, as if Eton cared about them) and provides an avenue for the bright to escape the State beargarden and being bullied for being clever (as does, more widely, CH).

https://www.etoncollege.com/Scholarships.aspx
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Re: Why does Eton make headlines....?

Post by marty » Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:41 pm

Foureyes wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:06 am
I once saw a splendid Eton-related put-down. It was a BBC Question Time, with Dimblebore as chairman and Rees-Mogg as one of the panelists. The subject of Eton was being discussed and Dimblebore made a very disparaging comment on the school and parents who were well-off sending their children there. He then turned to R-M : "I believe that you were there?" "Yes," replied R-M, unperturbed as always, "in fact, I was there at the same time as your son." The chairman then very quickly turned discussion to the next item on the agenda!!
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Re: Why does Eton make headlines....?

Post by wurzel » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:21 pm

postwarblue wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:18 pm
The point seems to be that Eton is offering VI form scholarships per se. It already has a core of scholarship boys and that has always been the case. Notoriously, the magic Boris was one of them, in distinction to Cameron who was a 'paid' entrant. The assumption that only rich kids can get there is therefore false although repeated often enough by the unthinking or terminally biased. The scholarship system ensures Eton a supply of the very bright as well as the moneyed (and probably helps with league tables, as if Eton cared about them) and provides an avenue for the bright to escape the State beargarden and being bullied for being clever (as does, more widely, CH).

https://www.etoncollege.com/Scholarships.aspx
As we live in Berkshire but not inside the old Reading/Newbury Parish boundaries required for West's gifts Eton was suggested to us for our son but upon investigation it just didnt "feel" right, I felt he would either end up bullied or a drug dealer (or equivalent) as he just did not have the social skills to cope with mixing with those type of people - as was also pointed out in present the CH entrance process which is one of the reasons he did not go to CH

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Re: Why does Eton make headlines....?

Post by Pe.A » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:21 pm

J.R. wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:37 pm
Julian.
Could I point out a spelling typo in the thread title ?
I could edit but feel you should.
(Thanks - well spotted - now fixed! J)
Anyway, Eton is only for the privelidged few.
I await Freaky's opinion.
Could I point out a spelling typo in your post ? ; p

privileged...?
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Re: Why does Eton make headlines....?

Post by J.R. » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:31 pm

Pe.A wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:21 pm
J.R. wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:37 pm
Julian.
Could I point out a spelling typo in the thread title ?
I could edit but feel you should.
(Thanks - well spotted - now fixed! J)
Anyway, Eton is only for the privelidged few.
I await Freaky's opinion.
Could I point out a spelling typo in your post ? ; p

privileged...?
Doh !!
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Re: Why does Eton make headlines....?

Post by jakew » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:39 pm

jtaylor wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:46 am
I wonder how the majority of Eton boys will treat their “charity-kids”?? I recall how other independent schools used to call us The Paupers, but how the local state schools used to call as the posh toffs.

One of the great things about CH was that none of us knew (at least in the first year or so) who was from a well off background, and who not. A great leveller.
I remember a contemporary from CH referring to the Tiffin as a "commie school" when we went to play them at rugby! This stuck in my mind, as I had never heard the expression before, it must have been in the 2nd or 3rd form (yes, I went to a "commie" primary school).

And yes, the Eton thing is about PR, they are considerably better at it than CH.

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Re: Why does Eton make headlines....?

Post by loringa » Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:26 am

Why does Eton makes the headlines offering these scholarships? Our class-ridden and desperately envious society is fascinated by the doings of the rich and famous to a degree bordering on prurience and Eton is where the rich and famous send their children to be educated. This is also why when reporting on CH, the media never fails to mention the fees paid by the 20% of full fee payers and never mentions the 80% who pay far less or even nothing).

For the same reasons, Brits equally love the opportunity to look down on those they consider beneath them. We are obsessed with the royal family, waste hours following the doings of the 'celebs' but are equally fascinated with those at the other end of society on whom we love to look down. The popularity of shows like Benefits Street, Benefits by the Sea, Jeremy Kyle, and anything with 'Gypsy' in the title confirms this. Similarly, we like to mock those we consider to be intellectually inferior, in this case see TOWIE and Geordie Shore to name but two. Why did a majority vote for BREXIT when it is clearly not in our economic interest? I suggest it is largely because British people like to consider themselves superior to the rest of the EU: harder working; more honest and better at football (actually, scrub the last comment).

Back to Eton, the bottom line is that it is an excellent school and, provided you fit in, you will get an outstanding education. Fitting in, of course, is not just about money and I think these scholarships are a good thing and those who get them will benefit enormously so long as they have the personal qualities required to take advantage of the opportunities available. Personally, I suspect they will and I wish them the very best of luck.
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Re: Why does Eton make headlines....?

Post by AMP » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:40 pm

Foureyes wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:06 am
I once saw a splendid Eton-related put-down. It was a BBC Question Time, with Dimblebore as chairman and Rees-Mogg as one of the panelists. The subject of Eton was being discussed and Dimblebore made a very disparaging comment on the school and parents who were well-off sending their children there. He then turned to R-M : "I believe that you were there?" "Yes," replied R-M, unperturbed as always, "in fact, I was there at the same time as your son." The chairman then very quickly turned discussion to the next item on the agenda!!
David :shock:
They were discussing the third runway at Heathrow and R-M nonchalently mentioned that he used to live near Reading and never had a problem with the flight path

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