Kwik-Fit sued...

ben ashton · Post by **ben ashton** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:51 am

...over staff radios

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edi ... 029892.stm

Mid A 15 · Post by **Mid A 15** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:57 pm

ben ashton wrote:...over staff radios

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edi ... 029892.stm

Where does it all end?

If I'm listening to the radio indoors and some friends turn up am I staging a performance?

The law is an ass!

J.R. · Post by **J.R.** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:20 pm

Bl00dy Redicerus !

sejintenej · Post by **sejintenej** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:06 pm

J.R. wrote:Bl00dy Redicerus !

Like it or lump it - that is the law. If you are in your garden (for example) and have a radio or TV on and it can be heard (or the picture seen) by a person who is not a member of your family or a guest in your house then you can be sued under the same laws. It goes further - if the woman over the road can see the picture on the TV in your front room you can be done.

I gave some exceptions - family members and guests simply because I am not sure whether they consttute an exception.

JR will know more than me but one senior police officer opined that the average person breaks the law 30 times each morning before he/she gets into the office.
Given that the police can hit on an 8 year old just think what they can do to you if you ever suggest that they are not more than 120% perfect; my wife has suffered the consequences!

blondie95 · Post by **blondie95** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:49 pm

It really is quite ridiculous, whats next you smell someone's else food its stealing food from them?

sejintenej · Post by **sejintenej** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:59 pm

blondie95 wrote:It really is quite ridiculous, whats next you smell someone's else food its stealing food from them?

Not quite sure that it's stealing the food from them - certainly the smell.

Just think of the consequences if they have followed one of Gordon Ramsay's F-Word recipes and you say it smells like manure or pig swill.

Be lucky if you are injuncted never ever to go within 100 miles of any of his restaurants!

Amy; Lord Justice Scrutton once opined in a case of similar rediculousness that "The Law is not an Ass" and every legislator since has been trying to prove him wrong - and succeeding.
I have to be careful writing about English law and byelaws (which tend to be even worse) but the US has a few prime examples.
Your other half can freely but you cannot skydive / parachute on a Sunday in Florida because you are female (I assume you are

)
A man was arrested in Palm Beach, Florida for jogging in the street! I cannot remember which way it goes - you can jog on North-South streets but it is an offence to jog on East-West streets (or vice versa). He was jogging in the wrong direction and got put in the cells.
There is one town where, when you arrive with such intention, you must phone the local sheriff to tell him/her that you intend to carry out burglaries or robberies before you enter town. In another you can have sex in a corner or alleyway but not in a car!

By comparison witholding broadcasting dues from a songwriter is a more understandable crime.

cj · Post by cj » Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:56 am

My eye caught another story on the right-hand menu bar

Eighty million years without sex
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7039478.stm

It must have been one hell of an argument/headache to warrant that!

Mid A 15 · Post by **Mid A 15** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:29 pm

cj wrote:My eye caught another story on the right-hand menu bar

Eighty million years without sex
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7039478.stm

It must have been one hell of an argument/headache to warrant that!

I'll have to look at Mrs Mid A's family tree

sejintenej · Post by **sejintenej** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:24 pm

Mid A 15 wrote:
cj wrote:My eye caught another story on the right-hand menu bar

Eighty million years without sex
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7039478.stm

It must have been one hell of an argument/headache to warrant that!
I'll have to look at Mrs Mid A's family tree

After this you certainly need to:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6196225.stm

Same day - looks like the BBC is become no-sex crazy

Jeeves · Post by **Jeeves** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:02 pm

If a company is playing music that is audible to the public without a licence then the PRS should be taking legal action. Artists deserve their royalties. The Kwik-Fit employees should be ensuring that their 'personal' radios are not heard by others. Put yourself in the position of the artist/songwriter/performer. Would you like it if your work was publicly distributed for free?

AndrewH · Post by **AndrewH** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:33 pm

Jeeves wrote:If a company is playing music that is audible to the public without a licence then the PRS should be taking legal action. Artists deserve their royalties. The Kwik-Fit employees should be ensuring that their 'personal' radios are not heard by others. Put yourself in the position of the artist/songwriter/performer. Would you like it if your work was publicly distributed for free?

Although the artists have been paid, for broadcast on the radio..

Jeeves · Post by **Jeeves** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:56 pm

I understand how the business works. Just highlighting the fact that the collection of royalties is an important revenue stream regardless of the money they receive for broadcast. Who's to say that the Kwik-Fit mechanics aren't playing CDs/MP3s or other media that they've paid for... in which case they haven't paid for public performance. The PPL (Phonographic Performance Ltd) collect for radio broadcast. I was referring to the PRS.

Angela Woodford · Post by **Angela Woodford** » Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:25 pm

sejintenej wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6196225.stm

Same day - looks like the BBC is become no-sex crazy

Two baby Komodo dragons from two virgin births!

I wonder which one is the Messiah?

Munch

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