Sentence of Peter Webb referred to Court of Appeal

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Re: Sentence of Peter Webb referred to Court of Appeal

Post by AMP » Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:35 am

bakunin wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:01 am
AMP wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:24 pm

He said he couldn't remember most of the offences but could remember not offending for 5 years?

Most people remember sexual contacts when they have lived and worked together.
Why? Drink. Or a defence strategy (?)
If he genuinely couldn't remember the incidents then there must have been a lot.

I suspect he looked at the dates of the crimes he was charged with and noticed a five year gap, so useful mitigation.

I am guessing that he was offending and that victims during that period haven't come forward

These types only ever admit to what they have been caught for, as he did first time around in 2015
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Re: Sentence of Peter Webb referred to Court of Appeal

Post by AMP » Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:43 am

DazedandConfused wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:12 am
bakunin wrote:
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Can we get back to the matter at hand instead of resurrecting an off-topic dispute from last year? AMP just made some interesting comments.
Agreed. I can’t find the transcript though, Google has failed me. Can a link be provided as the documents are in the public domain?
https://www.chforum.info/docs/WebbTranscript.pdf

https://www.chforum.info/docs/BurrTranscript.pdf
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Re: Sentence of Peter Webb referred to Court of Appeal

Post by richardb » Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:07 pm

I cannot find any press report of Webb's Court appearance in 2015.

Can anyone point me to anything?

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Re: Sentence of Peter Webb referred to Court of Appeal

Post by DazedandConfused » Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:14 pm

AMP wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:43 am
DazedandConfused wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:12 am
bakunin wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 11:59 pm
Can we get back to the matter at hand instead of resurrecting an off-topic dispute from last year? AMP just made some interesting comments.
Agreed. I can’t find the transcript though, Google has failed me. Can a link be provided as the documents are in the public domain?
https://www.chforum.info/docs/WebbTranscript.pdf

https://www.chforum.info/docs/BurrTranscript.pdf
Thank you so much.
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Re: Sentence of Peter Webb referred to Court of Appeal

Post by Pe.A » Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:30 am

AMP wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:35 am
bakunin wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:01 am
AMP wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:24 pm

He said he couldn't remember most of the offences but could remember not offending for 5 years?

Most people remember sexual contacts when they have lived and worked together.
Why? Drink. Or a defence strategy (?)
If he genuinely couldn't remember the incidents then there must have been a lot.

I suspect he looked at the dates of the crimes he was charged with and noticed a five year gap, so useful mitigation.

I am guessing that he was offending and that victims during that period haven't come forward

These types only ever admit to what they have been caught for, as he did first time around in 2015
Hmmm...you say that but 5 years is not an insignificant amount of time with no one having come forward. The case with Dobbie, for example, with the seeming hiatus in offences between c.1990 and c.1998 springs to mind. Or Martin with the one black mark next to his name, even though he was a teacher/housemaster etc over a c. 30 year period. It's hard to come up with definitive conclusions when it comes to patterns of offending.

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Re: Sentence of Peter Webb referred to Court of Appeal

Post by Otter » Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:15 am

Lengths of time without offending (if indeed there wasn’t any offending) happen for reasons such as your access to victims or habitual means of offending becoming blocked or restricted, being in a new relationship or some other life/family event that gives you a new perspective (or leaves you with no time/opportunity to offend), being spooked by almost being caught (or seeing a “success story” colleague caught and sent on his way to other schools with references...), etc.

As Webb and Dobbie’s examples show, these kinds of offenders often go back to their old ways after getting bored or finding the temptation too much (sex is the most powerful drug and leads people to offend even though they’re fully aware that being caught will destroy their lives). Or alternatively, perhaps they were offending all along and some victims haven’t come forward.
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