Roger Martin - trial

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sejintenej wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:30 pm If health be the problem methinks our ancestors had the right idea. As was normal it was Oliver Cromwell's corpse which was unearthed and placed in the dock for his trial. Not too sure how they would hve carried out the second part of hung, drawn and quartered.
A very interesting point of view David.

I can say that I have seen a clip of Mr Martin attending the original Magistrates Court hearing, and I must say he looked incredablly fit for a man of his age, so who knows ??
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I am reliably informed that to date, no new charges have been made against Martin or Burr.
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sejintenej wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:30 pm If health be the problem methinks our ancestors had the right idea. As was normal it was Oliver Cromwell's corpse which was unearthed and placed in the dock for his trial. Not too sure how they would hve carried out the second part of hung, drawn and quartered.
Methinks sejintenej errs in this matter. While the surviving regicides were tried before being executed, the leading dead ones (Cromwell, Bradshaw and Ireton) were, I think, merely disinterred and their bodies treated in like manner. It is easy to hang, draw and quarter a corpse, but less easy to try one.

(The Restoration was in fact carried out without much revenge. I think fewer than 25 people were executed or imprisoned for their Commonwealth activities, and they were all regicides.)
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Samuel Pepys witnessed the execution of Major-General Harrison: 'I went out to Charing Cross to see Major General Harrison hanged, drawn, and quartered; which was done there, he looking as cheerful as any man could in that condition.'

Harrison made a speech saying he would soon be sitting on the right-hand of Christ to judge them who had now judged him.
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michael scuffil wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:59 pm Samuel Pepys witnessed the execution of Major-General Harrison: 'I went out to Charing Cross to see Major General Harrison hanged, drawn, and quartered; which was done there, he looking as cheerful as any man could in that condition.'

Harrison made a speech saying he would soon be sitting on the right-hand of Christ to judge them who had now judged him.
A braver man than me !!

And on this subject and expected to be admonished for going 'Off Topic', I recently read a tract from the late, great actor, Sir Christopher Lee, who as a youngster, was in France. He witnessed from a window, the LAST public execution carried out by guillotine. His description was certainly very disturbing.
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J.R. wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:59 pm TRIAL DATE: PLEASE NOTE.

I have been informed today that the trial has been moved from 11th. March to 26th. June at Lewes.
I understand that the trial has now been moved forward two days to Monday 24th. June.
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(I have split out the recent posts as being off-topic - new post here: https://www.chforum.info/php/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=5287)
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jtaylor wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:56 pm (I have split out the recent posts as being off-topic - new post here: https://www.chforum.info/php/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=5287)
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Thanks Julian. I've been too busy with medical appointments this week.

Surgery at Frimley Park tomorrow, so may be absent for a couple of days.
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J.R. wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:28 pm
jtaylor wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:56 pm (I have split out the recent posts as being off-topic - new post here: https://www.chforum.info/php/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=5287)
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Thanks Julian. I've been too busy with medical appointments this week.

Surgery at Frimley Park tomorrow, so may be absent for a couple of days.
Good luck J.R. hope goes well...
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Week of June 24th - either at Hove, Lewes or Brighton Crown Court. TBC.

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It will be the same judge, so should be Hove.
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richardb wrote: Sun May 05, 2019 1:48 pm It will be the same judge, so should be Hove.
Justice Henson, presumably ??
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Judge Henson.

Justice is a High Court Judge which she isn't.
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richardb wrote: Sun May 05, 2019 5:30 pm Judge Henson.

Justice is a High Court Judge which she isn't.
My apologies for her demotion, but she is young. Plenty of time !

I will have to watch her later career with interest.
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