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Re: Here's a hypothetical

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:35 pm
by richardb
His criminality extends beyond that Max.

Re: Here's a hypothetical

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:43 pm
by DazedandConfused
max_ratcliffe wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:16 am While the rolling eyes emoji isn't helpful, I think that I agree with Pe A.

What did McCall actually do here? A clumsy pass by an older man on another man. McCall could very reasonably claim that yes, he made a pass but stopped as soon as he realised that his attentions were not well received.

Doesn't mean that it was any less unpleasant for Pete (and, no doubt, desperately embarrassing for both parties), but there's no child abuse here. As part of an overall pattern of behaviour, it doesn't look great, and certainly the drinks parties look foolish through the lens of this subsequent pass.

But I can't see how you'd ever get someone extradited for this.
Have a search on the forum for McCall’s name and see past posts.

Re: Here's a hypothetical

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 3:09 pm
by max_ratcliffe
DazedandConfused wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:43 pm
max_ratcliffe wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:16 am While the rolling eyes emoji isn't helpful, I think that I agree with Pe A.

What did McCall actually do here? A clumsy pass by an older man on another man. McCall could very reasonably claim that yes, he made a pass but
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Have a search on the forum for McCall’s name and see past posts.
Yeah, fair enough.

Some of the reactions to Pete's post (if taken in isolation) border on the homophobic, but in the context of all the other allegations, I can see why people are saying what they are.

Re: Here's a hypothetical

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 3:44 pm
by DazedandConfused
max_ratcliffe wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2019 3:09 pm
DazedandConfused wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:43 pm
max_ratcliffe wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:16 am While the rolling eyes emoji isn't helpful, I think that I agree with Pe A.

What did McCall actually do here? A clumsy pass by an older man on another man. McCall could very reasonably claim that yes, he made a pass but
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Have a search on the forum for McCall’s name and see past posts.
Yeah, fair enough.

Some of the reactions to Pete's post (if taken in isolation) border on the homophobic, but in the context of all the other allegations, I can see why people are saying what they are.
I can see that reading Pete’s post in isolation looks that way, unfortunately I think the reality is far murkier.

Re: Here's a hypothetical

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 7:13 pm
by Pe.A
max_ratcliffe wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:27 pm
richardb wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:21 am I am afraid Max that there is more to it than a clumsy pass on an older man.
Not really from the way that Pete described it. Trying it on with an ex-pupil, over 18 and twice his size, is not much of a crime.
marty wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:27 am
max_ratcliffe wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:16 am What did McCall actually do here? A clumsy pass by an older man on another man. McCall could very reasonably claim that yes, he made a pass but stopped as soon as he realised that his attentions were not well received.
I think you'll find it was a similar "clumsy pass" on a male pupil that facilitated his exit from the school.
This is obviously totally different, especially if the pupil was a minor.
Whether the pupil was a minor is indeed a good question. I've always had a mental image of the pupil in my head, and am sure he was on his Grecians at the time. Whether that was the reason for the case not being escalated past the school's disciplinary system, who knows...?

Re: Here's a hypothetical

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:09 pm
by jakew
There's a "physics professor" McCall mentioned in this blog post: https://www.stickmanbangkok.com/readers ... -part-367/.

Content warning: website is about the joys of "whoremongering" in Bangkok and almost certainly contains "adult material".

Re: Here's a hypothetical

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:21 pm
by Janey Jam-Jar
jakew wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:09 pm There's a "physics professor" McCall mentioned in this blog post: https://www.stickmanbangkok.com/readers ... -part-367/.

Content warning: website is about the joys of "whoremongering" in Bangkok and almost certainly contains "adult material".
Good God, how do you find this stuff?? 😆
(Or maybe best not to ask ...)
You and Otter could go into business and solve all the world's most tantalising mysteries with your incredible powers of detection.

Re: Here's a hypothetical

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:34 pm
by jakew
Another one, here's a blog written by a guy who likes to go on holiday by himself in Pattaya and happens to have an old friend named Richard McCall! https://petestravels.wordpress.com/2017 ... ard-bound/

Re: Here's a hypothetical

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:16 pm
by Pe.A
jakew wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:34 pm Another one, here's a blog written by a guy who likes to go on holiday by himself in Pattaya and happens to have an old friend named Richard McCall! https://petestravels.wordpress.com/2017 ... ard-bound/
Hmmm...ok. For anyone who doesnt know, let's just say that Pattaya hasnt got a particularly good reputation...

Re: Here's a hypothetical

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:51 pm
by J.R.
jakew wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:34 pm Another one, here's a blog written by a guy who likes to go on holiday by himself in Pattaya and happens to have an old friend named Richard McCall! https://petestravels.wordpress.com/2017 ... ard-bound/
An interesting thread link.

Any connection, one wonders ??

Re: Here's a hypothetical

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:05 pm
by jakew
J.R. wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:51 pm Any connection, one wonders ??
Probably just a coincidence; after all, Richard McCall is a pretty common name, especially in Bangkok.

Re: Here's a hypothetical

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:22 pm
by Otter
Should it be the right person, it would show he was still
alive in 2017.

Re: Here's a hypothetical

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 6:19 pm
by J.R.
Where IS Miss Marple when you really need her ??

Re: Here's a hypothetical

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:03 pm
by Janey Jam-Jar
J.R. wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 6:19 pm Where IS Miss Marple when you really need her ??
She'd have all the answers plus a pair of knitted socks within the hour. In the meantime, never mind Holmes & Watson, Morse & Lewis (or Turner & Hooch), newest kids on the detection block are Otter & Jake 🔎

Re: Here's a hypothetical

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:17 pm
by J.R.
Janey Jam-Jar wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:03 pm
J.R. wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 6:19 pm Where IS Miss Marple when you really need her ??
She'd have all the answers plus a pair of knitted socks within the hour. In the meantime, never mind Holmes & Watson, Morse & Lewis (or Turner & Hooch), newest kids on the detection block are Otter & Jake 🔎
Unfortunately, my detective time is lessening due to age and health.