AMP wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:14 pm
Ajarn Philip wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:26 pm
TMF wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:28 pm
Just don't mention the old blue, convicted predator paedophile, Breakwell...right?
Not sure where you get that from. My concern is the apparent assumption he 'learned his trade' at CH and, more importantly, the ambiguous questioning of Pe. A's and others' connection with Breakwell, nothing more.
Pe.A wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:51 pm
Both the above comments have gone over my head - I don't get them...
Reference Matthew Hopkins and the witch scene in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
Just to clarify I was talking about the possibility that Breakwell might have known Husband and Dobbie AFTER he left CH and so far nobody on here has posted that he did not know them after he left CH so the possibility he discussed with them his predelictions post CH and possibly learnt from them is not implausible at the moment. That is what paedos do.
Like some pupils he may have been aware of Husband's and Dobbie's offending whilst he was at CH. It may have influenced him during his formative years if he already had these types of inclinations.But I have not suggested anywhere that he learnt his trade whilst at CH or that CH has turned anybody into a criminal. That would be ridiculous.
For me, it was the assumptions that I took issue with. We have to proceed with what we do actually know, and there are a lot of mays and might haves in your comments, as well as blanket statements like "That is what paedos do" which I don't think actually add anything useful.
Let's be clear, the only difference between grooming and seduction is the age of consent - I'm sure the techniques are remarkably similar. People have always fancied, and will always fancy 14/15 year old girls. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with that, it's the law of the land that counts. Before I get mobbed for that statement, if one checks the ages of consent across Europe they range from between 14-18 - and in a country like Spain, the age of consent up until 1999 was 13. It is what it is - make of that what you will.
My point with that is that someone would not really need much guidance or influence. I'm sure there would have been plenty of similar cases he could have read about in the media since he was at CH, certainly post-Jimmy Savile. Some people abuse their power and their position of trust, give in to temptation, break the law and get found out. Trying to connect disparate dots through time and space back to CH just does not add anything useful.