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Another glimpse, while I think of it. And good advice for any student of any age. "Know your teacher".

Back to the university after the NY break this morning, and there, in pride of place on my desk, sits a large pack of Cadbury's chocolate in all its (considerable) glory. It's from a lovely little 19-year-old with a twinkle in her eye and a sense of humour. I don't see why the fact that she is frequently absent/late and does as little work as humanly possible should necessarily rule out a good grade, do you? :lol: :roll:
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Little shrieks of laughter :roll: :roll: :roll: too late, Philip! The little shrieks have been emitted, and not omitted. Just can't help it. Trying to translate "ad hoc padulorum". Bother!

1 The Suit + Sash. Impressive... imposing.... festive!

2 The Stag Night. The night before? Or several weeks before, in order to regain your professorly composure?

3 Heart shaped trinkets. There must be a Thai equivalent of a Wedding Woollies! (BTW, the High Streets here now have gaping empty premises where Woollies used to be! Thousands of staff, now jobless, even encouraged to sell their own lockers!) Envelopes of cash! Wow.

4 Perhaps, at this very moment, you are tucking into a giant bar of Cadbury's Dairy Milk! And it used to be "an apple for Teacher"! Give the student a good grade for creative thinking - I'm sure she deserves it really - who knows what other goodies may arrive on your desk?
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Golly, I'm having a remarkably western 24 hours. Last night, spare ribs and apple pie in 'Ye Olde Buffalo Bill Tavern' (I kid you not...), followed by the unfortunate experience of watching England forgetting how to play rugby again. This morning I went into town to look at some 2nd hand books and parked next to a 1952 Triumph Mayflower. Not only had I never seen such a car before, I'd never even heard of it!
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Ajarn Philip wrote:Golly, I'm having a remarkably western 24 hours. Last night, spare ribs and apple pie in 'Ye Olde Buffalo Bill Tavern' (I kid you not...), followed by the unfortunate experience of watching England forgetting how to play rugby again. This morning I went into town to look at some 2nd hand books and parked next to a 1952 Triumph Mayflower. Not only had I never seen such a car before, I'd never even heard of it!
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We recently 'inherited' a dog from a French neighbour and his Thai wife and kids, who have moved to Abidjan where he runs a fleet of dredgers. The dog's name, I was told by Mrs Ajarn, is Cobweb. Interesting and unusual, thought I. In an email to my French neighbour I asked where the name came from. The actual name is 'Koll boet', which is apparently Breton for 'pique assiette', which in turn means 'scrounger' - and now it all suddenly makes sense!
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Well, Kerren, you asked and you shall receive (with huge thanks to Julian)...

By the way, the pick-up truck is included because I promised a view of it ages ago - it's nearly 4 years old now, but the best 'car' I've ever had!

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Philip.. she's LOVELY!
I hope that you will all be so very happy!!
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Yes, Phil, she's adorable - I want one - and I am not normally a doggy person!
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kerrensimmonds wrote:Philip.. she's LOVELY!
I hope that you will all be so very happy!!
Hi Philip

Great ute and beautiful (not to mention smart: Don't eat canned dog food, no matter how expensive it may be. Gives you bad breath, smelly farts, runny poo ............) hounds :).

I'm sure that Bernietheboxer and Milly will willingly lend their wedding attire (blue bowtie for Bernie and two strung together cat collars adorned with pink bows) to Cobweb and Pup.

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Ooooh. Almost forgot. I can do you a nice line in longhorn stickers for the rear windscreen or tailgate of the ute. Or perhpas you would like some BnS (Bachelor and Spinster) Ball stickers? 'Cowgirls Want More Than An 8 Second Ride' perhaps?
For those forumites who don't frequent rodeos I will explain that bull riders need to stay on the bull for a minimum of 8 seconds.

Life at CH so did not prepare me for life in The Great Southern Land.

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Stickers? I have a prayer on rice paper hidden somewhere in the ceiling, a Buddha amulet on the dashboard and a weekly 'flower chain' affair hanging from my rear-view mirror, purchasable at every major traffic junction (beats having your screen washed).

With all that, I don't know why I bother with insurance.
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huntertitus wrote:Always worth haggling!
The thing about haggling is it must be taken seriously. Half-hearted haggling (mmm... like it!) is a complete waste of time and, frankly, rather insulting to the vendor. One of the (relatively few) advantages of living near a tourist town is that I can get my hands on all those little treats that I love - perhaps more often than I should. One of the (many) disadvantages is that everything costs at least twice as much as it should. This is thanks to tourists arriving here pale, happy and naive, going to the night market, paying the first price they are given and walking away smiling, thinking to themselves they have a bargain.

Thai haggling:

Smile. Use the word 'ow' often and with feeling - it doesn't mean anything, but it implies, if spoken in a falling tone and accompanied by raised eyebrows, "You have got to be kidding me".

Obviously, if you can speak even a little Thai, that helps. Unfortunately, many Thais love to demonstrate their astonishing English skills, so even when I go to a stall and say something in pretty reasonable Thai like "How much is that Rolex - chuckle - watch - it's a very bad copy, so it must be really cheap?" The initial reply will probably be "nie hunner baht", reinforced with the number displayed on a calculator, just in case I'm Italian and can't understand Thai English.

After a couple more exchanges (me Thai, she English) the penny drops; she suddenly realises I'm speaking Thai, whispers start going round adjoining stalls, people start gathering to watch the action. She metaphorically rolls up her sleeves, I try to look nonchalant (acting skills essential).

Now we get down to business.
She (it's almost always a female of the species - the husband may be watching TV in the background, but more likely off drinking with his mates): "Look, there's already a 10% discount on this watch, perhaps I could let you have it for 800."

Me: "I was thinking more like 350..."

She (laughing): "I couldn't possibly!"

Me: "Hmm... (looking thoughtful and examining the watch with a disdainful air) What's your best price?"

She (after pretending to make complicated calculations on the ever-present calculator): "750 baht - and I'm hardly making a profit."

Me: "Oh well, never mind (big, big smile), thank you very much."

This where it gets serious, whether you speak Thai or not, whether you live here or are a tourist. Now you walk away. You don't just turn to walk away hoping she'll call you back, you walk decisively away, not stopping at the next stall. If she doesn't call you back (this bluff thing works both ways!) or send a child running after you, and if you really wanted whatever she was offering and can't find it cheaper elsewhere, you have a couple of options, depending on how desperate you are and how much time you have.

The best option is to go back the next day, before she's forgotten who you are (apparently we all look alike :wink: ). Don't fart about (when I was in Pakistan, this process could take days if it involved carpets or furniture and involve copious quantities of sweet tea), remind her of the best price she offered you (minus 50 baht or so - she won't be fooled, but she will be impressed), then ask her what the real best price is. Take it or continue haggling, but don't expect much better.

Of course, you have to have shrugged off this awfully British self-consciousness about haggling, and that can take some time. You also have to lose the ability to think in terms of any other currency; "oh well, it's only a fiver" - nonsense, especially for me. My income here is in baht. 1000 baht a year ago was 14 quid, now it's 20.

The best option of all? For me it is undoubtedly to stay out of sight and leave it entirely to Mrs Ajarn. The first price they offer her will probably be the final best price they offered me!

But I do enjoy it from time to time, as a sort of contest and a test of my own ability and credibility in Thailand. Some of my more useful stock phrases:

"I'm not a tourist, just a poor Ajarn scraping a living in Thailand."
"I don't drive a Mercedes, just a pick-up."
"Do you see me wearing gold?"
And always... "Never mind" and lots of smiles and gentle laughter.


(P.S. Oh, and by the way - don't try it in Tesco, you'll just make a fool of yourself.)
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Fascinating insight Phil, thank you.

I think we are getting better at haggling over here, particularly over large purchases. No-one pays the marked price for a car any more and most people offer less than the asking price for a house. It helps if you really can't afford the initial price, then you have nothing to lose by walking away.
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Ver' Good -- Arjan !
I think one has to live in the Country -- wherever it happens to be --- I once spent a year buying a carpet -- every morning drinking coffee in Sardi's the carpet seller would arrive, and we would continue the "Game".
My best moment was in Turkey when I was buying a carved Meerschaum cigarrette holder for my sister-in- law we started at some 30,000 -- I said 2000 and we worked down to me at 3000 he at 3500 ----- time was getting on and so I said "OK 3500 and gave him 3x 1000 notes and a 500 note . he smiled sweetly and gave me back the 500 note-- explaining " No- 3000 is enough -- but you were not going to beat me hagglng !-" :oops: -- I LOVED IT !!
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Moving on, my next problem is digestive. I've just been into the kitchen to get my last drink of the evening. We went shopping this afternoon and, amongst other things, bought some extra-strong pickled onions. I adore them, but for every jar I buy I have to buy two packets of Eno (Eno's, Enos?) as they play havoc with my digestive system. That doesn't change the fact that (the now official) Mrs Ajarn left them on the worktop, so every time I have visited the kitchen for the last few hours (and that's not infrequently...) they start jumping up and down yelling 'eat me, eat me'! As we (well, I, as Mrs Ajarn doesn't eat the stuff) bought some rather tasty cheese as well, the temptation was strong. I have so far managed to resist, and I am determined to go to bed as soon as I finish this post...
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A verbal glimpse of the wedding.

Please bear in mind that right from the word go, we were both agreed that this should be a quiet, low key, intimate (and inexpensive) affair. I think we reached one of those targets.

I had initially been expecting monks galore festooned with orange robes and shiny heads, but fairly recently discovered that we were to be married 'Isaan style'. Instead of the monks we had an elderly chap covered in tattooes (no anchors or 'I luv Mums'), dressed in a grey safari suit that made him look a bit like a bus driver.

But I'm leaping ahead of myself. Go back to Thursday, which is when things really started to happen. People turning up to help prepare the house and garden (not to mention the road). Gas rings appearing all over the place to cook the vast mountains of food obviously required for about 40 people... Awnings/canopies/sunshades all over the place, flower arrangements, special pieces of furniture to hold bowls of water and flowers (lots of water and flowers involved). A large, shiny pink wallcloth with Welcome to the Wedding of Philip and Khammuan on it; not garish at all. :shock:

There's nothing of the hermit in my current lifestyle, but I have to confess that I've become less gregarious since I've been here. Mostly because so many expats appear to have so few braincells and such over-developed imaginations about their heroic former lives in the SAS or MI6. And I've come to appreciate my privacy and my personal space. Hmm, forget that for 3 days. People, dogs, children all over the bloomin place. Just smile, Phil. So we get to Friday evening and our little house has been transformed into a shrine. 3 a.m. on Saturday morning the cooking started. 4 a.m. on Saturday morning I'd had enough of being polite and walked up the road to my 'family home' - the house of my French neighbour, away working in Africa. I had a book and a bottle of water and relative peace and quiet for a while.

The plan was for me to be escorted, at 9.09 a.m., by my 'family' from my 'family home' to my bride's home (our house). There I would hand over lots of gold and piles of cash to my bride's mother and hope she approved. My parents were Henry and Linda, colleagues from the university. Bee's real parents live in the UK and Australia, are divorced and haven't seen her for donkey's years, and her grandparents are too old for the journey from Isaan. Her stand-in parents were Widar and Edle, an elderly, very active Norwegian couple who 'adopted' us a few years ago.

At 7.30, as I was sitting on the verandah, reading, listening to the birds and the distant laughter from my bride's garden and generally pondering the meaning of life, the universe and everything, my peace was shattered by the (unexpected) arrival of my extended family. With a significant quantity of cold beer. They were a happily noisy bunch - I even knew one or two of them. No adult males, just women and kids. Lots of women and lots of kids. It's true what they say; you can't choose your family. They kept nagging me to get dressed (I was in my most comfy shorts). "It's nearly time, Ajarn!" (I've stopped trying to get people not to call me that.) 'Nearly time' meant more than an hour to go, and I was beggared if I was going to dress up in my fancy outfit a minute earlier than necessary, i.e. 9.08.

Just to be sociable I joined them in a breakfast beer or two. By now my 'parents' had turned up - frankly, they have never set me a good example.

The propitious moment arrived and, suitably attired and carrying a long-stemmed flower between my palms, we set off on the procession to my bride's house. It's only about 50 yards, but we made the most of it. Lots of hooping and hollering to announce our approach, to which my parents contributed very enthusiastically. My surrogate granny (I still haven't worked out who she was, and she seemed to have forgotten her teeth) was holding an umbrella over my head to keep the sun off. She was also chanting and cackling quite a lot. I'm sure she was giving me lots of good pre-wedding advice, but I'm delighted to say I didn't understand a word. But a nudge and a wink is the same in any language.

As we approached the house, it was a bit like two neighbouring tribes coming together. Hers was bigger than mine, but that's the story of my life... They eyed each other challengingly and there was lots more hooping and hollering. This time I could understand enough to make out that they were crying "Maa leao!" - he's arrived. I was led to foot of the steps, where my shoes were removed, I was told to stand on two palm leaves and much to my astonishment, my feet were washed very thoroughly by two charming young ladies. Weren't they the lucky ones. Granny produced a couple of envelopes containing my hard-earned cash and handed them over - I doubt it was enough.

I was then led further toward the front door, but stopped by two more little beauties holding a 'gold chain' barring my way. Granny produced a couple more envelopes and we were allowed past, but only a few feet to the next barrier - string this time. More cash changed hands, and I started to wish I'd found out a bit more about the procedure in advance.

Right, I'm in. No sign of the bride. More hooping and hollering from the bedroom. :shock: Now I'm really getting nervous, things seemed to be moving too quickly... The bedroom door opens and the bride is there in all her glory. Stunning. I developed a sudden irritation in both eyes. Mother-in-law and bride are happy with the dowry and the gold, so it's on with the show.

This is where things started to get a bit uncomfortable for me. I consider myself to be approaching (cough) middle age with dignity and decorum, and it's only a comparatively few years since I was pretty fit. But I'm blatantly not up to extended periods on my knees in a hot and crowded room.

The bus driver is now directing operations and positioning the various families. First of all, Bee and I have to light candles and incense - we have to do it together, which is just as well because Bee's hands are shaking. Back into position A (shuffling inelegantly on knees and mopping brow) where we and the large floral display (prepared by Granny the previous day) are linked by a long circle of white thread held by yet more young ladies (all, of course, far outshone by the true star of the show). Now all of the guests come forward one by one to tie a piece of thread around our left wrists. Once again, a lack of preparation on my part let me down badly. Had I known that varying quantities of cash would be attached to these threads on our wrists I would have (a) forewarned my ignorant western guests and (b) invited a hell of a lot more people...

My 'father', while clumsily trying to tie a thin thread with fingers the size of Cumberland sausages, whispered discreetly (and beerily) "No cash, mate - I'll slip off to the ATM later, OK?" Yeah, right on, Henry. You see what an Eton education does for you?

Phase 2. The vows. Lots of chit-chat which was totally beyond me. Then the bus driver starts speaking in a sing-song 'recitational' voice and pausing for Bee to repeat. I'm listening carefully, as it will be my turn next - I can't understand a word, but I'm thinking it will be no problem to simply copy him. But my turn never arrives - when he eventually finishes, we move on to phase 3. It turns out that we should both have been repeating his words together. Oops. So Bee has promised to love, honour and obey me, to wash my feet regularly, clean the pick-up truck and never burn my toast, while i've promised absolutely nothing. Fair dinkum.

Phase 3 is delayed because a vast blue floral display (yet another one) hasn't been delivered. I couldn't be more pleased, because this allows me to stand up (with considerable difficulty and quite a lot of help) and hobble outside for a beer and a fag, while some poor soul gets a right bollocking.

Phase 3 is delightful because it involves sitting on a stool (bliss) and having cold water poured delicately over my hands (every little helps when it's 40 degrees C and you're dressed up to the nines). Each guest pours water from what looks suspiciously like a gravy boat with a teapot spout over our hands and quietly gives us a personal blessing. My father let me down again, but I refuse to divulge quite how disgracefully. He wasn't quiet enough, because I heard him get a right rollocking from Mum.

The bride's mother (Edle - a wonderful lady who's a real hoot and must have been an absolute cracker in her youth! - her English is awful and Bee's isn't great, but somehow they seem to communicate perfectly on some mysterious subliminal level that surpasses my inadequate male understanding) had warned us that she'd cry, and she didn't let us down. It wasn't loud, thankfully - no sobs - but it was certainly copious. An emotional bunch, those Norwegians. :shock:

And after about an hour and a half it was all over. Nearly.

We were led into the bedroom by the bus driver and Granny, who had created a large heart from red petals on the bed and sprinkled vast quantities of differently coloured petals all over the place. The bus driver asked which side of the bed I slept on (don’t we all sleep on the right, chaps?) and then clambered on and lay down. A young lady lay down a respectable distance away from him (thankfully it’s a big bed) and we got more general instruction on how to have a happy and fruitful marriage. At least, I think that’s what it was.

A quick change into shorts and a t-shirt, lots of food and chatting for an hour or two, then 25 of us piled into a few pick-ups and went off to the boat. But that’s a tale for another day.
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