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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:11 pm
by Deb GP
Oh how I really HATE that. Almost has much as I detest being referred to as "Ms" Smith. (rant surpressed here)
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:16 pm
by UserRequestedRemoval
HAve all the hymns been reworded or something recently?
The Catholic ones look the same as ever
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:22 pm
by Deb GP
Many books have done it.
Lots of liturgy has been re-worked too. For instance, prayers to God our Father and Mother.
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:26 pm
by Deb GP
But back to the topic - I'd love to see the Hertford Grace (as seen in theback of the CH hymn book) in use more widely in random books. I think it's really pretty. A little twee... but lovely all the same.
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:43 pm
by Ruthie-Baby(old a/c)
Deb GP wrote:Many books have done it.
Lots of liturgy has been re-worked too. For instance, prayers to God our Father and Mother.
sorry, WHAT?????

I think someone maybe completely missing the point. That's way out and totally outrageous.
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:50 pm
by cj
Before we know it, there'll be women in the pulpit and gay men as bishops ... But seriously, this is the trouble with the C of E, trying to please everyone and failing dismally (imho).
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:52 pm
by Ruthie-Baby(old a/c)
cj wrote:Before we know it, there'll be women in the pulpit and gay men as bishops ...
well they're debatable subjects and I'm not going to discuss them now, but come on, since when has God been a mother??????
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:53 pm
by Deb GP
Ruthie-Baby wrote:
sorry, WHAT?????

I think someone maybe completely missing the point. That's way out and totally outrageous.
Don't be. I was when I first read it. Then I read a whole paper on it (I don't often read high brow theological papers - I think I was bored) and actually it works OK once you start looking at whether the word God has gender or not. I don't really like it because it just doesn't fit in with my conditioning.
But back to school tunes I'd like to hear more of - Mine is the foundation hymn. Definitely. I hate it when my hubby's school chums get together and get boozed (usually after the last night of the proms whilst we're waiting for a cab) and fall into a rousing rendition of "Floreat Sodalitas Pardorum". It's just not the same.
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:23 pm
by DavebytheSea
Foundation Hymn sung lustily at St Mylor on last Sunday in August every year (see earlier posting containing words actually used!)
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:52 am
by Great Plum
Deb GP wrote:Oh how I really HATE that. Almost has much as I detest being referred to as "Ms" Smith. (rant surpressed here)
Mrs Plum nearly attacks people if they call her Ms Plum...
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:02 am
by Deb GP
Good on her.
I also scream at the telly / radio when people use "myself" in the wrong place or who try to get it right saying "Jimmy and I" when they really mean "Jimmy and me". Thankfully I've managed to bite my tongue enough not to correct people in real life - but it's getting harder.
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:05 am
by Rory
Please give Ms Plum my regards then.
By the way - talking of church things - what did you reckon to those adverts posted everywhere a few months back that portrayed Jesus as a revolutionary (che guevara type)......
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:11 am
by Great Plum
Well, I guess in his time, he was a revolutionary...
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:15 am
by Rory
Indeed he was - it's just that I read that a lot of traditionalists got all upset - I thought they were pretty good actually.
Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:17 am
by Deb GP
Someone always gets upset at something. The baby che/JC posters weren't as good as the grown up che/JC posters.