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Re: Settles

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:13 am
by NEILL THE NOTORIOUS
Back to the Topic ! !
I see that the OED describes the Settle (Noun) as a "High backed seat, or bench, often with arms, and frequently with a box underneath " It comes from the Old English " setl " A seat ----- what else ?
How far back do settles go ? ?
At the danger of introducing another Topic --- Naughty ! were they not used, with leather trousers, for testing the strength of Beer ? Not the Housey ones !

Re: Settles

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:07 pm
by AKAP
jhopgood wrote: (Apologies to AKAP who probably remembers the incident. I looked up my photo of Barnes B 1966 when Johnson was Housemaster, and apart from the monitors and some people from my brother's year, I can't remember the name of anyone else, but your name rings a small bell).
I don't think I have ever seen a photo from Barnes B in 1966. Is there any chance of posting it on the forum?

Re: Settles

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 1:03 pm
by michael scuffil
AKAP wrote:
jhopgood wrote:
michael scuffil wrote:NEILL
(Apologies to AKAP who probably remembers the incident. I looked up my photo of Barnes B 1966 when Johnson was Housemaster, and apart from the monitors and some people from my brother's year, I can't remember the name of anyone else, but your name rings a small bell).
I don't think I have ever seen a photo from Barnes B in 1966. Is there any chance of posting it on the forum?
I didn't write anything of the sort.

Re: Settles

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 1:22 pm
by Foureyes
How far back do settles go? Well, at least to 1862. See.....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1862-SCHOOLS-ENGL ... otohosting
:shock:

Re: Settles

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:51 pm
by AKAP
michael scuffil wrote:
I didn't write anything of the sort.
Michael

Sorry, I think I've sorted the original post now.

Re: Settles

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:02 pm
by michael scuffil
Foureyes wrote:How far back do settles go? Well, at least to 1862. See.....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1862-SCHOOLS-ENGL ... otohosting
:shock:
The ones illustrated are actually the same as we had. I don't mean they look the same, they are the identical objects. Like the beds. It would be interesting to know just how old they were.

Re: Settles

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:21 pm
by jhopgood
AKAP wrote:
jhopgood wrote: (Apologies to AKAP who probably remembers the incident. I looked up my photo of Barnes B 1966 when Johnson was Housemaster, and apart from the monitors and some people from my brother's year, I can't remember the name of anyone else, but your name rings a small bell).
I don't think I have ever seen a photo from Barnes B in 1966. Is there any chance of posting it on the forum?
I have tried to put one up on the Barnes photo site but it only gives the link.
If you can't see it I will ask JT to lend a hand.

Re: Settles

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:31 pm
by Foureyes
I think that I may have found the earliest reference to the settle, which appears in The Canterbury Tales:

"For I wol telle a legende in fine fettle
Of Chriſt’s Hoſpital and the boys’ ſettle
Wherein their garments were ſtor’d,
Blue coatſ, breecheſ and hoſe in yellow,
And by their slepping place ykept,
So guarded it was as they ſlept."

:shock:

Re: Settles

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:42 pm
by jhopgood
Foureyes wrote:I think that I may have found the earliest reference to the settle, which appears in The Canterbury Tales:

"For I wol telle a legende in fine fettle
Of Chrift’s Hofpital and the boys’ fettle
Wherein their garments were ftor’d,
Blue coats, breeches and hose in yellow,
And by their slepping place ykept,
So guarded it was as they slept."

:shock:
I'm confused.
I thought the Canterbury Tales were by Chaucer in the 14th Century, a bit early for CH and the pupils, unless you have found another version, or are taking the Michael.

Just seen that it is from an 18th century modernisation by Samuel Cobb (1675 - 1713) who was at CH, so presumably the settles were there when he was.

Re: Settles

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 9:44 pm
by Foureyes
John,
How could you accuse me of making it up? This extract is, as I am sure you will appreciate, taken straight from "The Miller's Tale."
:shock:

Re: Settles

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:55 pm
by J.R.
Foureyes wrote:John,
How could you accuse me of making it up? This extract is, as I am sure you will appreciate, taken straight from "The Miller's Tale." :shock:
The 'rude-one' if memory serves from Horsham days !

Re: Settles

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:57 pm
by John Knight
J.R. wrote:
Foureyes wrote:John,
How could you accuse me of making it up? This extract is, as I am sure you will appreciate, taken straight from "The Miller's Tale." :shock:
The 'rude-one' if memory serves from Horsham days !
If you dropped the books on the floor they always seemed to fall open at the page where he stuck something out of the window... :oops:

Re: Settles

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:42 pm
by AndrewH
michael scuffil wrote:The ones illustrated are actually the same as we had. I don't mean they look the same, they are the identical objects. Like the beds. It would be interesting to know just how old they were.

I like the way that some of the beds had been extended in length, I would guess as the average age in the school increased.

Re: Settles

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 6:10 pm
by michael scuffil
There were two lengths of bed when I was there. On the longer ones I could stretch out at my present height, so they must have been 6 ft 6. But they were narrow. If it weren't for that, I'd have one tomorrow if any were going, and put a futon on the boards.

Re: Settles

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 6:50 pm
by NEILL THE NOTORIOUS
Not really on Topic --- JR please forgive !
I did Canterbury Tales, -- the Prologue for School Cert (Anybody remember that ? ? ) I dom't seem to remember any "Naughty Bits " then , but in those days I thought GIRLS were funny creatures that didn't play Rugby.
Of course now they do ------ Further confusion ! :oops: :oops:
Ba B 1940 - 1946