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J.R. wrote:................. nor me, Neill.
He and his family are money-grabbing layabouts.
NEILL THE NOTORIOUS wrote:J.R. wrote:................. nor me, Neill.
He and his family are money-grabbing layabouts.
Angela -- you disappoint me ! I expected a terse comment about "NOR I " !
This is the Pedant's Revolt !!
NEILL THE NOTORIOUS wrote:I am beginning to wonder, if I CARE any more ------
HRH The Prince of Wales ---- "This is somewhere I like coming to---"
and the BBC's continued use of split infinitives------ and qualified ablolutes --- is very unique !
HE thought it mattered that we should speak and write English, in the current form, although, having studied Chaucer's "Canterbury Tales" for School Certificate -- (What was that ?") where's the , I appreciate that it is a developing Language.
I wonder how strictly, it is being taught at CH, these days ?
DefinitelyThe Blessed Mr Malins who taught me English must be spinning in his grave !!
Frances is correct - there is no historical evidence of a split infinitive being considered poor grammar. It's another of those affectations that people adopt to demonstrate that their use of English is "better" than other people's.Fjgrogan wrote:Neill - the only reason that classical scholars get uptight about split infinitives is that it was not possible to do it in Latin because it was all one word (although the Germans are happy to insert something into the middle of a word?). I confess that I do try to avoid splitting infinitives, but I really have no idea why! Mind you, I have been known to use the subjunctive where appropriate, to the puzzlement of others - 'if I were you' etc.
sejintenej wrote: NEILL THE NOTORIOUS wrote:I am beginning to wonder, if I CARE any more ------
HRH The Prince of Wales ---- "This is somewhere I like coming to---"
and the BBC's continued use of split infinitives------ and qualified ablolutes --- is very unique !
HE thought it mattered that we should speak and write English, in the current form, although, having studied Chaucer's "Canterbury Tales" for School Certificate -- (What was that ?") where's the , I appreciate that it is a developing Language.
I wonder how strictly, it is being taught at CH, these days ?
The Blessed Mr Malins who taught me English must be spinning in his grave !!
Definitely
What is wrong with that expression? IMHO it can be very validly included to emphasise that it is the speaker (rather than somebody else) who ....................NEILL THE NOTORIOUS wrote:I STILL say "It is I" ---- and I'm too old to change !! --- It may be "Affected" but I have been affected by all sorts of things for far too long !
(Some of them quite un-mentionable !)
Could you please define your second adjective? educated perhaps, literate? very perhaps?englishangel wrote:We had an email from a very educated gentleman today which said "Perhaps you could take Simon and I tomorrow". Even the people in the office who would not recognise a split infinitive if it gave them a kiss winced at that one.
No you're dead right, but don't worry Neill - sejintenej referred to "the second adjective", & I think he meant "educated". If so, the word preceding it is not an adjective at all but an adverb! How's that for excruciating pedantry - or, to put it another way, proper grammar?NEILL THE NOTORIOUS wrote:Now look 'ere -- we wuz orl tort at CH an' shud now betterer
I try to explain that In the verb"to be-" the first person. singular, takes the Nomonative, (But I bet I got that wrong as well !)