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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:07 am
by englishangel
Not on the NHS, only if you go private.

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 1:00 pm
by J.R.
So the old adage of, 'A hand in the bush is worth two birds in the sky', is no good then on the NHS Mary ?

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:46 pm
by UserRequestedRemoval
I once had to deliver 2 cases of wine to the mortuary at Jimmy's In Leeds, I have always wondered what they were going to do with it? The idea of a wine and cheese evening in the mortuary doesnt sound that appealing.

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:58 am
by Vonny
Well we are back - actually they let us out last night at around 7.30 which was good. The wires and the plaster were removed under general anaesetic at about 1.30. I made the mistake of waiting outside the room where she had the injection & heard her sreaming when the needle was put in her hand. Then there was complete silence which sent shivers down my spine. Everything went well and she woke up properly an hour or so after she came back from theatre. She doesn't seem to be able to straighten her arm completely at present but I guess it's early days, although she is using that arm. Have to go back to the fracture clinic in 2 weeks.

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:01 pm
by UserRequestedRemoval
Is she in much pain?

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:10 pm
by Vonny
soc wrote:Is she in much pain?
She doesn't seem to be (apart from her hand where they put the needle in) - I think her arm is just stiff where she hasn't moved it properly for nearly 5 weeks.

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:23 pm
by UserRequestedRemoval
I bet it is going to be pretty weak too after 5 weeks of no activity

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:30 pm
by Great Plum
Vonny wrote:
soc wrote:Is she in much pain?
She doesn't seem to be (apart from her hand where they put the needle in) - I think her arm is just stiff where she hasn't moved it properly for nearly 5 weeks.
How come they put a needle in her and didn't gas her - that's nomally quick and painless...

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:56 pm
by UserRequestedRemoval
they put a venflon (or something like that) in the hand so that the anesthetic can be given and then if more drugs need to be given, they don't need to do more injections, they just do it through the venflon

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:44 pm
by Great Plum
Oh OK - sounds painful!

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:49 pm
by UserRequestedRemoval
It is when they bl**dy well miss the vein

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:12 pm
by Vonny
soc wrote:they put a venflon (or something like that) in the hand so that the anesthetic can be given and then if more drugs need to be given, they don't need to do more injections, they just do it through the venflon
Yes - that's what they told us. She hated having it both times. It didn't help when they took it off it bled quite a bit and she saw the blood :roll:

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:42 pm
by UserRequestedRemoval
They do whip them out a bit fast sometimes

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:55 pm
by sejintenej
soc wrote:They do whip them out a bit fast sometimes
Cannulas:
when my son had one put in in New York it was highly flexible and stayed there over a week with no apparent discomfort.

As soon as the Brits replaced it they used one with a stiff tube which pulled the skin with every movement and, in consequence had to be replaced every 2 days because the skin was so torn. The hospital has refused to consider using a different make saying they are not available.

However, in another UK hospital last year I had one of the US style ones - no probs. Shows how much you can trust some NHS management

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:37 pm
by englishangel
sejintenej wrote:
soc wrote:They do whip them out a bit fast sometimes
Cannulas: Cannulae
when my son had one put in in New York it was highly flexible and stayed there over a week with no apparent discomfort.

As soon as the Brits replaced it they used one with a stiff tube which pulled the skin with every movement and, in consequence had to be replaced every 2 days because the skin was so torn. The hospital has refused to consider using a different make saying they are not available.

However, in another UK hospital last year I had one of the US style ones - no probs. Shows how much you can trust some NHS management
What a load of nonsense, of course you can get the soft ones here. They should be resited every 5 days or so because they can become infected, but if they are put in the proper place they are quite comfy. My son had one in the bend of his elbow when he had his appendix out, just about the worst place it can go especially for a child.