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Re: Trial of Gary William Dobbie
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:08 pm
by J.R.
It has been suggested to me that the 'former member of staff'' has been mentioned frequently on this forum on threads in time past..
As I said before, we will have to wait and see.
Re: Trial of Gary William Dobbie
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:18 pm
by J.R.
Did anyone go to Hove Crown Court today ?
Any news that can be posted on here ?
Monday, here we come !!!
Re: Trial of Gary William Dobbie
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:31 pm
by Leeautemps
Looks like witness two was sworn today but their evidence was not concluded. Was anyone in court today who can clarify?
Re: Trial of Gary William Dobbie
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:16 pm
by scrub
I don't remember it being that often when I was there either. Like you, twice a week I think.
Re: Trial of Gary William Dobbie
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:39 pm
by Great Plum
When I was at CH (92-99), there were, as others have said, only two compulsory services a week - one on Sunday, either in the morning or evening, and the junior / senior chapels on Tuesday and Wednesday mornings.
There were other services, an 8am short communion on a Monday, never more than 10 people or so, a communion on Sunday (either the morning or evening when it wasn’t full school chapel) and compline on a Friday night at 9pm (always candlelit, good fun for pyros...)
Dobbie was, I think senior chaplain until the Mitras arrived which was the start of my UF, so September 95. He took fewer of the chapel services then. I can’t remember when he became housemaster.
Re: Trial of Gary William Dobbie
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:15 am
by Avon
Otter wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:52 pm
Was chapel 4-5 times a week the norm in the late 80s/early 90s, and with Dobbie playing a larger role?
Hmmm, maybe not 4-5, but sadly not as good as twice a week. IIRC the seniors got less chapel too, but there were services that were basically hymn rehearsals with the lantern-jawed Allwood vainly trying to coax everyone to sing well.
Dobbie was possibly more prominent then, but prominence is relative. If you elected to go to voluntary services, including communion, you probably got more Dobbie. If you just went to the compulsory stock, then you got Dobbie (or the sour Banyard) doing prayers, announcing hymns, etc. Perhaps once or twice a term they did a sermon, but the habit was to cast the net wider for people to deliver sermons, like, er, (tediously) the HM, or (dubiously) Peter Ball or (dubiously) Enoch Powell.
Re: Trial of Gary William Dobbie
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:12 am
by bakunin
I swear there was also chapel on friday mornings in the mid 90s, so 2 or 3 times a week usually
Re: Trial of Gary William Dobbie
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:31 am
by LHA
Avon wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:15 am
Otter wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:52 pm
Was chapel 4-5 times a week the norm in the late 80s/early 90s, and with Dobbie playing a larger role?
Hmmm, maybe not 4-5, but sadly not as good as twice a week. IIRC the seniors got less chapel too, but there were services that were basically hymn rehearsals with the lantern-jawed Allwood vainly trying to coax everyone to sing well.
Dobbie was possibly more prominent then, but prominence is relative. If you elected to go to voluntary services, including communion, you probably got more Dobbie. If you just went to the compulsory stock, then you got Dobbie (or the sour Banyard) doing prayers, announcing hymns, etc. Perhaps once or twice a term they did a sermon, but the habit was to cast the net wider for people to deliver sermons, like, er, (tediously) the HM, or (dubiously) Peter Ball or (dubiously) Enoch Powell.
Enoch Powell gave a sermon in the Chapel? When?
About the only memory I have of Dobbie preaching in chapel is reading out a piece by Martin Niemoller about spending your first night in prison.
Re: Trial of Gary William Dobbie
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:03 am
by Avon
LHA wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:31 am
Enoch Powell gave a sermon in the Chapel? When?
89-90 ish.
Re: Trial of Gary William Dobbie
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:50 am
by DazedandConfused
Avon wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:03 am
LHA wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:31 am
Enoch Powell gave a sermon in the Chapel? When?
89-90 ish.
That’s about as appropriate as Dobbie teaching Discovery to the 2nd form. Bravo CH.
Re: Trial of Gary William Dobbie
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:19 am
by Avon
DazedandConfused wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:50 am
Avon wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:03 am
LHA wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:31 am
Enoch Powell gave a sermon in the Chapel? When?
89-90 ish.
That’s about as appropriate as Dobbie teaching Discovery to the 2nd form. Bravo CH.
An appalling piece of judgement. It would be interesting to know who extended the invitation.
Re: Trial of Gary William Dobbie
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:35 am
by Otter
Avon wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:15 amthe lantern-jawed Allwood
Brilliant. I remember that exceptional jaw. But I never knew there was a widespread term for it! Thanks for that. My Google image history is now full of lantern jaws.
Re: Trial of Gary William Dobbie
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:35 pm
by LHA
And here indeed they are. I was around at this point but obviously went over my head.
http://www.enochpowell.info/speeches/
Re: Trial of Gary William Dobbie
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:47 pm
by DazedandConfused
Twice! 1986 and 1987.
I’m not sure I would have paid much, if any attention, as a young teen. I generally remember the sermons being mind numbingly dull, but likely many of them would interest (or offend) me as an adult. I do remember Simon Weston speaking but no other standouts.
Re: Trial of Gary William Dobbie
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:14 pm
by J.R.
Otter wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:35 am
Avon wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:15 amthe lantern-jawed Allwood
Brilliant. I remember that exceptional jaw. But I never knew there was a widespread term for it! Thanks for that. My Google image history is now full of lantern jaws.
I'm sorry Stephen, but on sound legal advice, I have deleted your post of yesterday concerning quotes from court proceedings, even though I appreciate it was from press coverage.
IF a juror got access to this site and followed through subsequent posts and raised them in court, there could be serious implications.
Let's leave it to the trial conclusion to discuss on this site. Again, I'm sorry. John