School Carmen and other songs....

Richard Ruck · Post by **Richard Ruck** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:13 pm

englishangel wrote:don't worry about it, richard ruck is having similar trouble

Still find time to use the Caps Lock key, though!

Jude · Post by **Jude** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:14 pm

yes but look Mary - I have got to GE now!!!!

WildOne · Post by **WildOne** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 10:56 pm

I too remember being bullied psychologically... and have horrid memories of those awful bathrooms!

I got into a vicious circle when somebody said I smelled bad. The others took to peeking around the bath curtain and over the partition to check that I was washing properly in the bath. The result was that I became too embarrassed to strip naked and actually get into the bath, and hence smelled bad sometimes! Then they would watch, listen and taunt me even worse next bath-time!

Eventually, they realised they were actually preventing me from bathing and agreed to stop the peeking, but I knew they still listened outside the curtain so I would run the bath and just keep stirring it with my hands to make it sound right. Then, sometimes, in the middle of the night, I would run the bath slowly and silently (directing the water against the bath wall with my fingers) and soundlessly, in slow motion, lower myself into the water for a private soak in the darkness.

This may sound like trivial bullying, but even now, 30 years later, I still have to consciously overcome my anxiety of being naked in a bathroom!
In the bedroom, I'm fine, but in the bathroom I feel horribly and illogically vulnerable!

It's amazing how long, and how deeply, this stuff affects you!

Gaye
4.24 1965-1970

WildOne · Post by **WildOne** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:13 pm

But on a lighter note...

Just reading the carmen words brought back the whole tune also, and I was silently singing it rather than just reading. And all the words of the first five verses were right there in my memory again!

This especially surprised me as when I did the poll I couldn't think what the carmen was or what the question even meant!

Weird thing the human brain!

Gaye
4.24 1965-1970

Katharine · Post by **Katharine** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:24 pm

I know the girls' verse of the Carmen (theirs was Votum wasn't it?) which always caused confusion to the visiting Grecians and Old Blue Dads started Artes palaestrae floreant - may the arts of the gymnasium flourish. We weren't quite sure what the arts were though!

Jude · Post by **Jude** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:41 am

Katharine wrote:I know the girls' verse of the Carmen (theirs was Votum wasn't it?) which always caused confusion to the visiting Grecians and Old Blue Dads started Artes palaestrae floreant - may the arts of the gymnasium flourish. We weren't quite sure what the arts were though!

No it was a bit of a shock to me when I got to the end of the carmen at Horsham and everyone else was still singing!! No one told us that the boys had an extra verse - although it makes sense to the music (not the words!)

Do you remember the other "Main School Hymn"?????

The Churche's one Foundation
Is Jesus Christ her Lord;
She is his new creation
By water and the Word;
From Heav'n He came and sought her
To be his Holy bride;
with his hown blood he bought her,
and for her life he died..

Tune S.S. Wesley
words S. J. Stone.......

looking back on the words scares the hell out of me - especially as I have now found out I am Jewish (lol, talk about multi-dominational!) and actually got Confirmed (as a total prat) at Hertford.... miss Tucker did the Lion the Witch and the wardronbe.......... and there I was thinking it was just a story!!!!

Katharine · Post by **Katharine** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:21 am

Jude wrote:Do you remember the other "Main School Hymn"?????

The Churche's one Foundation
Is Jesus Christ her Lord;
She is his new creation
By water and the Word;
From Heav'n He came and sought her
To be his Holy bride;
with his hown blood he bought her,
and for her life he died..

Tune S.S. Wesley
words S. J. Stone.......

looking back on the words scares the hell out of me - especially as I have now found out I am Jewish (lol, talk about multi-dominational!) and actually got Confirmed (as a total prat) at Hertford.... miss Tucker did the Lion the Witch and the wardronbe.......... and there I was thinking it was just a story!!!!

That was not the other school hymn in my time. We had 'Praise the Lord for our Foundation' which had been written by a former headmaster. It was stuck into the covers of the hymnbooks. Can't remember many more of the words, being totally unmusical I hadn't realised until reading this thread that the Carmen had a two verse tune!

Jude · Post by **Jude** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:09 pm

Hey Katherine - don't worry - most of us can't remember much of anything in here - I even forgot my password today - d'oh..

I knew it was something about foundation so I grabbed an old hymn book (like everyone has next to their pc of course!) and looked up foundation - recognised the tune and the words - thought it was that - but I think you are right -
Praise the Lord for our foundation
la la la la la la la
la la la la la la la la ( keep us free from all temptation?)
la la la la la la la
Hallelujah, hallelujah
?Praise the Lord with all our might"?

I have a tune going through my head..... but I don't have a CH Hymn book - I bet either RR or JR will have the words.....

nope just checked up the music I was singing - it's Praise My soul the king of heaven..... so I'm blathering away for no reason really!!!

BOYS??? Help!!

Jude · Post by **Jude** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:23 pm

the only CH hymnal I possess (wow, I did have something after all!! Oooops) is 100 hynms for today....

does anyone remember...
God of concrete, god of steel
god of piston and of wheel
god of pylon, god of steam
god of girder, god of beam
god of atom, god of mine
all the world of power is thine???

Would sydney Carter ring any bells with those who have their old CH Hynmnals? I'm sure he visited us at Hertford - or am I getting confused with the Lord of the dance man? - just looked that up - err same bloke! I danced in the morning when the world was begun etc... he came to see us and give us a talk in the main hall. We (the choir) had to perform his songs....ho hum hymn

Katharine · Post by **Katharine** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:40 pm

My father was a contemporary of Sydney Carter at school, that's as much as I know!

Great Plum · Post by **Great Plum** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:46 pm

Syndey Carter was the 'Lord of the Dance Man' as well as 'One more step along the world I go' - what was he thinking!

I'm sure you must be thinking of the Foundation hymn which is still regularly sung at the school...

Richard Ruck · Post by **Richard Ruck** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:58 pm

Don't have all the words to the Foundation Hymn, I'm afraid.

Could try to listen to the recording and write them out, though. Or perhaps someone who lives at C.H. could scan a hymn book or Speech Day programme........

Mrs C. · Post by **Mrs C.** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:34 pm

Take a look here...

http://user.itl.net/~geraint/christshospital.html

Katharine · Post by **Katharine** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:07 pm

Mrs C. wrote:Take a look here...

http://user.itl.net/~geraint/christshospital.html

You won't be surprised to learn that we sang only three verses, omitting the third for fairly obvious reasons!

Mrs C. · Post by **Mrs C.** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:22 pm

.....and it`s quite likely that in the foreseeable future at least one of the lines in that verse will no longer ring true.......

BTW, it is believed that at least one member of CH staff has the Foundation Hymn tune as their ring tone on their mobile.

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