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kerrensimmonds wrote:What a good memory Mary. I think it was Barbara KempsTon? Her sister Gillian was in my year. Barbara now lives in East Sussex and has surfaced for some singng activities organised by Polly Robson (nee Barrett) though I personally have not met her. Her sister lives in Bermuda or somewhere equally exotic and although I was given and used an e mail address (from Barbara), she (Gillian) did not respond.
Oh what a tangled web is made by the human connections derived through Christ's Hospital?!

You are correct about the spelling.

I have also attempted to make contact with someone I was in the Study with (in 2's) through her brother who is on FRU but she didn't reply.

Ajarn Philip wrote:cj, I do believe you're a genius!

Was there some some of doubt in the first instance, Ajarn? Only joking - I'm blushing with delight at your comment!!

gemmygemmerson wrote:This is a cry for help!.

Does anyone know how to conugate deponent verbs into the passive subjunctive?

Please, please do begin a Latin thread!

For one thing, I need to have explained to me - what is a deponent verb and what does the passive subjunctive translate as...

Although admiring and respectful of Queenie's awesome intellect, I did badly at Latin, although for the rest of my life I have needed it. Botanical Latin, ecclesiastical Latin, Latin for melancholic broodings over old tombstones and memorials!

I was actually fascinated by the subject, but needed to concentrate on it. 40 minutes in a class, followed by a quick switch to, say, Maths, was difficult. I'm a bad multi-tasker, and needed then, as now, really to focus exclusively on a subject with individual explanation here and there.

(Unrealistic, I know. I'd probably still be doing 'O' levels now!)

I was amazed to read that Kerren was excluded from Queenie's Latin - why didn't this happen to me? Queenie disliked me and despaired of my making any progress.

Wildone (Gaye Linskill) records that Queenie was proud that she'd never had an 'O' level failure. She did - the year before - that was me. Perhaps Queenie had blotted out the terrible memories!

Munch

( If any Latin teachers are reading this then yes, I do realise I am abotu to burn in hell for by total bodge job of explaining latin grammar )


Deponent verbs are passive in form but active in meaning. So for example 'conor' = I try instead of I am tried.
You basically conjugate it in the passive but it's really not passive.

That was a total botch of a explanation, but hey, I'm not a latin teacher

The subjunctive is a mood, just like the indicative and doesn't have a defined translation but could be explained as 'that I am etc ) with 'that' or 'let' at the beginning. They usualy come together with other clauses and are used in purpose clauses etc but they are also often used on their own.

The Passive subjunctive is when the subjunctive ( in present, perfect, pluperfect etc )is put in the passive ( that I had been tried etc ). What I'm having trouble finding is how exacty the deponent verbs, which are already in passive form, are put in the passive.

Is it just that they are put in the active? in a negative + negative = positive sense.

And Thus you can see why I've only been doing latin for two years.

Please, Miss Newlands....



"go and throw yourself out of the window, child" as QMB would tell me.

I don't get it

See other threads in the Hertford section, Gemma. This is a fond reminiscence of of the teaching style of a Hertford Latin teacher. They're probably a bit more user friendly these days!

By the way, it would be a good idea to start another thread with this Latin question. There may be a few experts out there who'll spot it.

Oh right

I have read quite a few threads on the Hertford section, makes me quite glad in someways that I get to go to Horsham.
I'll probs just leave it, I can ask a teacher next week.

xxx

This is all Greek to me !

Jan said, 'Try a good insecticide - It does the trick with greenfly !'

gemmygemmerson wrote:( If any Latin teachers are reading this then yes, I do realise I am abotu to burn in hell for by total bodge job of explaining latin grammar )


Deponent verbs are passive in form but active in meaning. So for example 'conor' = I try instead of I am tried.
You basically conjugate it in the passive but it's really not passive.

That was a total botch of a explanation, but hey, I'm not a latin teacher

The subjunctive is a mood, just like the indicative and doesn't have a defined translation but could be explained as 'that I am etc ) with 'that' or 'let' at the beginning. They usualy come together with other clauses and are used in purpose clauses etc but they are also often used on their own.

The Passive subjunctive is when the subjunctive ( in present, perfect, pluperfect etc )is put in the passive ( that I had been tried etc ). What I'm having trouble finding is how exacty the deponent verbs, which are already in passive form, are put in the passive.
Is it just that they are put in the active? in a negative + negative = positive sense.

And Thus you can see why I've only been doing latin for two years.

They don't have a passive form. Other verbs, eg nequeo (be unable), also occor only in the active form , after all what would the meaning be in the passive?

To anyone interested, I commend the OU course A297 Reading Classical Latin (when you get old you tend to do daft things like that to stop your brain rotting).
Maggie

Wow Maggie. If you had had Queenie Blench, I bet now that she would be proud of you! Gemma.. I did e mail my 'contact' as promised, and if I get a response I will PM you.
PS Maggie.. yes I have long admired your signature! It is one to which I subscribe in just about every element of my life....

Yeah, but my Latin homework says there is . That's why I'm buggered because as far as I was aware it had no passive.

I kept thinking all day today and it was a really scary thought that this time next week I'll be in lessons. I don't know what's going to be weirder, being in lessons again or at CH.

gemmygemmerson wrote:( If any Latin teachers are reading this then yes, I do realise I am abotu to burn in hell for by total bodge job of explaining latin grammar )


Deponent verbs are passive in form but active in meaning. So for example 'conor' = I try instead of I am tried.
You basically conjugate it in the passive but it's really not passive.

That was a total botch of a explanation, but hey, I'm not a latin teacher

The subjunctive is a mood, just like the indicative and doesn't have a defined translation but could be explained as 'that I am etc ) with 'that' or 'let' at the beginning. They usualy come together with other clauses and are used in purpose clauses etc but they are also often used on their own.

The Passive subjunctive is when the subjunctive ( in present, perfect, pluperfect etc )is put in the passive ( that I had been tried etc ). What I'm having trouble finding is how exacty the deponent verbs, which are already in passive form, are put in the passive.

Is it just that they are put in the active? in a negative + negative = positive sense.

And Thus you can see why I've only been doing latin for two years.

I got an A in Latin for my GCSE and I have no idea what you are talking about... (must be something else that I have forgotten already!)

Yes, Kerren, I did have dear Queenie for Latin, except for the first year, and I can't think for the life of me who taught us in LIV. We didn't know her as Queenie then, it would possibly have made her easier to cope with if we had.

Maggie

Gemma.. I have had a reply to my enquiry on your behalf (about the deponent verbs...) and have sent you a PM this afternoon. Good luck!
Kerren