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Carmen Incipii

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:57 pm
by Eruresto
A bit of fun for any latin Geeks out there (coming out of the Never-Ending F.H. Competition):

fratres, optime cum vivendo iusto
dabuntur gratas gratias
efferendo cum animis ignoscerentibus
preces sanctae in officio factae.
laudamus ergo dues coeli
Christe liberator hostisque
cum domino spiritorum septem,
Patre, Filioque spirituque sanctu.


Verses 1-3 in progress...

Re: Carmen Incipii

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:09 pm
by midget
Who's a clever boy, then. Are you going to compose a new tune too? I couldn't make the words fit the old one.

Maggie

Re: Carmen Incipii

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:16 pm
by Eruresto
Me, composition? Pereat cogitium! I'm as mucical as a breezeblock!

Re: Carmen Incipii

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:51 am
by J.R.
Not speaking Latin, I assume that this is the translation of that old music-hall favourite.....

'Carmen into the Garden Maude' !!

Re: Carmen Incipii

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:31 pm
by Great Plum
Eruresto wrote:Me, composition? Pereat cogitium! I'm as mucical as a breezeblock!
Is that why you were lead singer of a rock band? ;)

Re: Carmen Incipii

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:42 pm
by Eruresto
Was I chosen as lead singer of a rock band, Matt? :? I don't remember that! lol

And J.R., I do hope you're joking. As a veteran Forumite (and thus CH geek by default), you should know what it is already!!!

Re: Carmen Incipii

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:01 pm
by sejintenej
Eruresto wrote:Was I chosen as lead singer of a rock band, Matt? :? I don't remember that! lol

And J.R., I do hope you're joking. As a veteran Forumite (and thus CH geek by default), you should know what it is already!!!
That is what worries me: I did 2 years so-called latin (eeeucccch) plus 3 latin based languages so I can read quite a lot into it but is it what you actually mean?

line one appears to refer to an honest lifestyle; I'll leave that to Peter Hain
line 2 free (not paid for ) thanks (for something or someone)
line 3 some strange mezozoic beastie like dinosaurus
line 4 officially approved facts - has tpo be suspicious
line 5 colei - an old spelling/plural for a particularly nasty bug? no thanks
line 6 - sorry - I have already had enough problems with my septum

You say that verses 1 - 3 are in progress what was that then?

The tune? with a title like that it has to be opera (or is it the dirge of the east end licenced carmen?

Re: Carmen Incipii

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:15 am
by J.R.
2 years Latin ?

I think I failed to survive one term under B.S. Gregory in Prep school !

Latin's all Greek to me !

Re: Carmen Incipii

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:14 pm
by cj
My Latin is terrible (as no doubt JED would support) and currently I can only run to ecclesiastical or medical Latin, in particular hyperemesis gravidarum (although it's a bastardisation of Greek and Latin, but classical none the less!).

Re: Carmen Incipii

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:09 pm
by jfdawson
Very good!

But presumably the tune would have to be called something like medius urbs?

Re: Carmen Incipii

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:13 am
by icomefromalanddownunder
Eruresto wrote:A bit of fun for any latin Geeks out there (coming out of the Never-Ending F.H. Competition):

fratres, optime cum vivendo iusto
dabuntur gratas gratias
efferendo cum animis ignoscerentibus
preces sanctae in officio factae.
laudamus ergo dues coeli
Christe liberator hostisque
cum domino spiritorum septem,
Patre, Filioque spirituque sanctu.


Verses 1-3 in progress...
Hi David and All

Five years of Queenie's tuition, and all I could come up with is:

Brothers, live to the best and lustily
Give thanks for/to something or other
Animatedly offer up ignorance
Be official in holy somethingorother
Therefore let us praise two skies
And Christ liberate hostility
With master of the seven spirits
Father, Son and Holy Ghost

I have a feeling that something is not quite right :? , as it doesn't scan, parse or make any sense. Also, what tune is it set to?

Please, someone, put me out of my misery.

xx

PS: Has anyone ever managed to defeat four pack Spider Solitaire?

Re: Carmen Incipii

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:05 am
by Angela Woodford
Does "que" as a suffix mean "and", Caroline? I seem to remember Queenie (in the little scarlet flatties) saying so -

In which case I make an attempt at

"Christ our Saviour and our Host"

Note I remember something taught me linked with the shoes worn at the time.... :roll:

I therefore identify this piece as the last verse of the Foundation Hymn! "Brothers, best with righteous living - " Oh no, it's set me off -

Munch

Re: Carmen Incipii

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:05 pm
by icomefromalanddownunder
Angela Woodford wrote:Does "que" as a suffix mean "and", Caroline?
Arma virumque cano - I sing of arms AND the man :D

Well done Munch!

xx

Re: Carmen Incipii

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:01 pm
by kerrensimmonds
I have always wanted to know what was the difference between the 'Carmen' (Hertford) and the 'Votum' (Horsham) when they were one and the same thing... 'Unum concentum tollite.......'
Kerren

Re: Carmen Incipii

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:49 pm
by midget
Except for one verse....Ours began "Artes palaestrae floreant....", but I'm sure the lads had something about manly pursuits (and I'm sure JR could make something of that)

Maggie