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Ajaz Karim on trial at Hove Crown Court

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 5:57 pm
by Kiff
Ajaz Karim who coached sport at CH in the 1980s and 90s has gone on trial today at Hove Crown Court.

The claimant is an Old Blue and Judge Jeremy Gold is presiding.

The trial continues tomorrow.

Re: Ajaz Karim on trial at Hove Crown Court

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2024 11:35 am
by Nel
Thank you for letting us all know. It's good that some victims still out there are now ready to come forward on their own terms. I wish this person continued strength, it's such a tough process. If you are reading this, you have all my support and I'm sure everyone on this board.

Re: Ajaz Karim on trial at Hove Crown Court

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2024 2:59 pm
by Kiff

Re: Ajaz Karim on trial at Hove Crown Court

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 7:39 pm
by Kiff

Re: Ajaz Karim on trial at Hove Crown Court

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 7:48 pm
by LHA
My thoughts are solely with his victim.

Back inside he goes. He attended for a voluntary interview so that may explain the lack of a custody photo, although maybe the press will attend for his sentencing. He had aged really badly I thought even back in 2018.

Not a great response from the school, as ever

Re: Ajaz Karim on trial at Hove Crown Court

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2024 5:36 pm
by Kiff

Re: Ajaz Karim on trial at Hove Crown Court

Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2024 8:38 pm
by sejintenej
21months with another charge being held on the books. He hopes to be out after 11 months! Sorry but I am of the "severe" mentality - he should be made to serve the rest of his earlier sentence and the entire 21 months this time. That said I would prefer a massively harsher sentence because he was acting against a young child who could not protect herself against an adult who was placed in authority over her..

Pupils of my generation will be aware (as were the individual pupils involved) t hat housemasters could and sometimes did read personal correspondence.

Re: Ajaz Karim on trial at Hove Crown Court

Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2024 9:29 pm
by Katharine
sejintenej wrote: Wed Dec 25, 2024 8:38 pm Pupils of my generation will be aware (as were the individual pupils involved) t hat housemasters could and sometimes did read personal correspondence.
Did you have to leave your letters open? We did, we had letter writing on a Sunday when we were all supposed to write home. We then left the letters in their envelopes before they were posted the following day. I don’t have any memories of incoming post being read.

Re: Ajaz Karim on trial at Hove Crown Court

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 8:43 pm
by rockfreak
When in Prep B I don't recall our letters being read. Which I suppose was quite generous of Mr Pink who might well have discovered someone writing: "Dear Mum and Dad, Mr Pink tried to put his hand up my shorts yesterday". In the end no-one divulged such contentious information until Summer term 1955. Which tells you much about how dodging lecherous masters was considered part of the obstacle course that is the British boarding school.

I never disclosed my initial unhappiness (which in my case didn't involve being groped but was simply part of being pitched into this overwhelming, cold, spartan, loveless environment) because I knew that it would upset my parents who had set so much store by getting me into a boarding school. I concentrated on anodyne events like minor academic achievements (mostly minor in my case) or house sporting events, or indeed any vaguely unusual or amusing event that seemed to stand out from our monastic life. The more I read of the psychotherapist Nick Duffell's books on these matters the more I understand my reactions and behaviour back then - and indeed in subsequent years.

Re: Ajaz Karim on trial at Hove Crown Court

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 10:11 am
by sejintenej
David. I do hope Mr Pink did not actually put his hand there .... I wonder if the concept actually happened in my day but....

I was actually referring to inward mail to a member of this group from a female who apparently used very hot and rather direct and detailed language! I suspect, from what I heard from him, that she, as an authoress, would have done well in the hidden literature market.

It was post to that pupil that Kit was interested in. In Prep A letters out were left unsealed but in the upper we sealed them in Col A.

Re: Ajaz Karim on trial at Hove Crown Court

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2025 11:55 am
by Kiff
Karim won his appeal so his sentence has been reduced from 21 to 15 months because not enough weight was given to his previous sentence for similiar offences.

He could be out shortly on a tag.

Re: Ajaz Karim on trial at Hove Crown Court

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2025 8:57 pm
by sejintenej
Kiff wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 11:55 am Karim won his appeal so his sentence has been reduced from 21 to 15 months because not enough weight was given to his previous sentence for similiar offences.

He could be out shortly on a tag.
IMHO for equal acts the punishment should be the same or worse. What really is the reason for prison sentences? hell or luxury with freebies. The fact that there was a previous sentence for a similar offence should not reduce the punishment for a different but presumably identical offence.

Re: Ajaz Karim on trial at Hove Crown Court

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2025 9:10 pm
by Kiff
sejintenej wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 8:57 pm
Kiff wrote: Thu Mar 20, 2025 11:55 am Karim won his appeal so his sentence has been reduced from 21 to 15 months because not enough weight was given to his previous sentence for similiar offences.

He could be out shortly on a tag.
IMHO for equal acts the punishment should be the same or worse. What really is the reason for prison sentences? hell or luxury with freebies. The fact that there was a previous sentence for a similar offence should not reduce the punishment for a different but presumably identical offence.
Had he been sentenced for all matters in one go, he wouldn’t have got another 21 months for this offence.

Re: Ajaz Karim on trial at Hove Crown Court

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2025 8:25 pm
by LHA
How unfortunate. If he wanted to reduce his prison time he could have asked for other offences to be taken into consideration and pleaded guilty at the first trial

Does anyone have a link to the Court of Appeal judgment

Re: Ajaz Karim on trial at Hove Crown Court

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2025 9:06 pm
by MrEd
Does anyone have a link to the Court of Appeal judgment
There are reporting restrictions in place in relation to the judgment due to the commission of a particular type of offence. Anyone who re-publishes it is responsible for ensuring that the prohibited details are not repeated. I would suggest that this site does not host a link to the judgment to ensure that the Anonymity Order is fully adhered to.