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The Longmate Book
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:23 pm
by DavebytheSea
Well, I have nearly finished it and I see one forum member is an exact contemporary of Longmate. Was Boom Macnutt really quite so bad as Longmate says? He was there in my time, but never taught me - I dont remember hearing too many bad things about the revered Ximenes though.
Longmate book
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 9:02 pm
by JGSteel
I found it a breath of fresh air and acted as a long needed antidote to the "Christ's Hospital book" which appeared in 1953. I have just had a card from Norman who celebrated his 8th birthday on the 15th of this month. He had a party which included another OB who, as he puts it "...hated the place". I can't say that I actually hated it but it was a curate's egg of a place. Good in parts, nasty and violent in others. Career advice was minimal, specially if one had a record of under achievement. My father and I were told by Flecker that I couldn't be an engineer because I was not doing Latin! True to the good in parts thesis, at least the late Dr Van Praagh gave me sound advice for which I am ever grateful. Recent correspondence that I have unearthed from by parent's files included a letter from Mr Averill (Head of the engineering school) saying that I had never applied to become an engineering student. This was, in fact, misleading. It was assumed that those in the D & E streams were incapable of being engineers and, as a consequence, I was never asked! Hopefull things have improved. I became a very senior research engineer at the prestigious Central Electricity Research Laboratories in Leatherhead.
Well well.
If any current Blues want advice on careers in engineering they can contact me.
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 1:31 pm
by J.R.
'Boom' never taught me either, and I don't remember him as a fearsome character at all.
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:56 pm
by shoz
OK, my curiosity has finally got the better of me. Can someone give me a brief synopsis of the Longmate Book please?
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:55 pm
by englishangel
shoz wrote:OK, my curiosity has finally got the better of me. Can someone give me a brief synopsis of the Longmate Book please?
pm DaveByThe Sea, I think he is the expert, and a very sympatheitic character to boot.
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:39 pm
by DavebytheSea
shoz wrote:OK, my curiosity has finally got the better of me. Can someone give me a brief synopsis of the Longmate Book please?
A very well written and well researched book - but it is huge (600+ pages). Longmate is perhaps the leading historian on English Social history during WW2. The only problem is that he hated EVERYTHING about CH. The book is a blow by blow account of his years at Housie just before and during the war.
The book can be acquired through Amazon, I think.
I have written more elswhere on the forum - search Longmate!
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:48 pm
by shoz
I did a search on Longmate but it didn't come up with much. I searched Amazon and it came up with 'How we lived then'. This is only £14 so I can't see it being the 600 page book you describe.
Also, does anyone have any information on 'The Christ's Hospital Book' from 1953 as mentioned above?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:25 pm
by DavebytheSea
shoz wrote:I did a search on Longmate but it didn't come up with much. I searched Amazon and it came up with 'How we lived then'. This is only £14 so I can't see it being the 600 page book you describe.
Also, does anyone have any information on 'The Christ's Hospital Book' from 1953 as mentioned above?
Try:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASI ... 74-1290828
for the Longmate Book "The Shaping Season
and:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASI ... 74-1290828
for the Christ's Hospital Book
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 9:44 pm
by shoz
Thanks for info. Could you tell me if The Longmate Book is exclusively about CH or is it just a chapter ot two?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 10:38 pm
by DavebytheSea
shoz wrote:Thanks for info. Could you tell me if The Longmate Book is exclusively about CH or is it just a chapter ot two?
The book is about his time at CH over 8 years, The first introductory chapters are background - his parentage and events leading up to the scholarship by which he was awarded a place by Newbury city council. It is the most detailed and well-researched book I have read about life at Housie - but his experiences and conclusions are by no means shared by his contemporaries or those that followed shortly after. I knew most of the teachers he describes and apart from DSR (whom he clearly adored and by whom I also had the privilege of being taught as a grecian) I simply do not recognise them as the brutes he makes them out to be.
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 12:47 pm
by shoz
DavebytheSea wrote:It is the most detailed and well-researched book I have read about life at Housie
I have only just noticed the term 'Housie' being used in this way. Is it just a generic term for time spent at CH or has it some other meaning?
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:05 pm
by Richard Ruck
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 6:28 pm
by englishangel
B****y H*ll, I am sitting on a goldmine. I didn't realise the 1953 book was worth THAT much.
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 7:08 pm
by mr tall
englishangel wrote:
B****y H*ll, I am sitting on a goldmine. I didn't realise the 1953 book was worth THAT much.
I reckon what you are sitting on is probably worth a gold mine but not your copy of the book. Have alook here for a more realistic set of prices for copies:
http://dogbert.abebooks.com/servlet/Sea ... k&sortby=2
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 10:40 pm
by englishangel