Which teachers?During my senior years at CH i got a bit drunk in more than one teacher's house
So adults giving minors alcohol (like Durrant did) is entirely normal?Like i would say!
If so, why not indicate which teachers did this with you?
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Which teachers?During my senior years at CH i got a bit drunk in more than one teacher's house
So adults giving minors alcohol (like Durrant did) is entirely normal?Like i would say!
I think we need to take a little bit of a step back here and remember the times we were in and the standards that prevailed.
1. Why so curious...?
1. Alcohol had a 'disinhibiting effect' on Webb: https://www.chforum.info/docs/WebbTranscript.pdf1. Why so curious...?
2. I'm not fundamentally opposed to the 16-18 age range being given alcohol. With regards to Durrant, what makes you sure that he gave alcohol to the pupils...?
3. I'm not going to name names simply because a/ it's irrelevant b/ i don't want to start a potential rumour mill.
1. I had a feeling you might mention Webb. But there are differences in that the pupils weren't given alcohol. Besides, i view his using alcohol as a 'mitigating' circumstance as lame as the "they were asleep" excuse, especially considering he used them post 1980 offences. Furthermore, alcohol doesn't seem to have been an issue in other cases.TMF wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 2:32 pm1. Alcohol had a 'disinhibiting effect' on Webb: https://www.chforum.info/docs/WebbTranscript.pdf1. Why so curious...?
2. I'm not fundamentally opposed to the 16-18 age range being given alcohol. With regards to Durrant, what makes you sure that he gave alcohol to the pupils...?
3. I'm not going to name names simply because a/ it's irrelevant b/ i don't want to start a potential rumour mill.
2. Durrant told the jury he had been drinking wine all evening and he and the other pupils were drunk.: https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north- ... ex-2810551
3. You are allowed to feel that way.
I think my phrasing using 'a bit drunk' was wrong. It was more tipsy than drunk. Furthermore i wouldn't describe it as a common occurence in the 90s. I was just lucky enough, i guess. I also seem to remember on at least one occasion stopping off at a pub briefly on the way back from an away rugby match on my Grecians (?)AMP wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 1:27 pm Nothing wrong with treating Deps and Grecians like adults and in this respect the Grecians Club was a good thing.
Like pubs, it contained the drinking to one area, so easier to manage.
Is the Grecians Club still in existence?
We were allowed to have a pint or three on the Portsmouth - St Malo ferry
However there is a world of difference between a couple of beers whilst watching MOTD and openly getting drunk in a teacher's home, and this seems to have become the accepted norm in the 90s.
I certainly wasn't aware of such practices in my time, no wonder less scrupulous teachers exploited it.
Although ironically it was possible to go into Horsham in full uniform and purchase alcohol as a UF or GE.
I may have misunderstood this exchange, but giving alcohol to pupils was def an issue with GWD.Pe.A wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:41 pm
1. I had a feeling you might mention Webb. But there are differences in that the pupils weren't given alcohol. Besides, i view his using alcohol as a 'mitigating' circumstance as lame as the "they were asleep" excuse, especially considering he used them post 1980 offences. Furthermore, alcohol doesn't seem to have been an issue in other cases.
So were smoked oysters and episodes of Inspector Morse...Leeautemps wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:16 amI may have misunderstood this exchange, but giving alcohol to pupils was def an issue with GWD.Pe.A wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 6:41 pm
1. I had a feeling you might mention Webb. But there are differences in that the pupils weren't given alcohol. Besides, i view his using alcohol as a 'mitigating' circumstance as lame as the "they were asleep" excuse, especially considering he used them post 1980 offences. Furthermore, alcohol doesn't seem to have been an issue in other cases.
I would suggest that in a school environment teachers must be circumspect; some parents might allow the odd glass, others are adamantly against their offspring having alcohol so a teacher has to go with the more "responsible" parental attitude. @@@@jtaylor wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 1:09 pm I think the alcohol issue could be complex.
Teachers were/are in-loco-parentis, and it’s perfectly acceptable for a parent to give alcohol to their child in the right way, in order to teach sensible alcohol consumption etc.
Combine that with the Grecian’s Club where you could drink when you turned 17, and the lines were fairly blurry.
I don’t recall alcohol being given to 2nd Form through your UF - only Deps/Grecians I think?