Do privileges still exist at CH?

PM · Post by PM » Wed Nov 16, 2005 10:28 pm

It may not sound much now, but the privilege of using the Grecians Path in my Grecians gave me a few more precious minutes in bed before the dash to breakfast...shortest route, and all that. Is it still a privilege reserved for Button Grebos?

darthmaul · Post by **darthmaul** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 10:48 pm

There is very little privilege with regards to the -haha- Grecians- path anymore. It is the walkway of Deps and Grecians, of which the former are the primary source of erosion upon that beautifully tarmac'd path.

Even the UF and GE may be found on it, and nary a word is said. I have seen 3rd form using it on occasion.

What is CH doing?

Dont even start on the cheekiness of juniors, the lack of respect, the anti-bullying code and any -haha- privileges.

Great Plum · Post by **Great Plum** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:08 am

Surely an anti-bullying code is a good idea?

Richard Ruck · Post by **Richard Ruck** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 10:20 am

Great Plum wrote:Surely an anti-bullying code is a good idea?

Probably is, but shouldn't need one, though.......

englishangel · Post by **englishangel** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 10:56 am

Richard Ruck wrote:
Great Plum wrote:Surely an anti-bullying code is a good idea?
Probably is, but shouldn't need one, though.......

do you have any kids RR?

Kids will bully over anything. I have a couple of 'boffins' at an Upper school (old secondary mod as Bucks still has grammar schools) and if my daughter wasn't the reincarnation of Medusa I dread to think what would happen to the boy.

We certainly had it 'easy' at Hertford. Two blankets, and a radiator under every window, turned on at the beginning of November whether it was cold or not. (would have been ok this year)

No cooking facilities in houses until GE, then only a ring to warm up milk for supper.

We did listen to Radio 1 Top 20 on a Sunday evening. TV in TV room for whole school (it held about 40) on a Saturday afternoon and evening and Sunday after pm chapel. It was always packed for the wimbledon finals.

We were only supposed to take three books from home and they had to be vetted by the housemistress. I still have my 'The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe' with CMW (Cecilia M Winstone) inside.

In sixth form we had a housemistress who loved rugby and she would invite us into her room for tea and crumpets to watch the Five Nations (as it was then). As soon as we reached 18 she would offer us a glass of sherry.

Her daughter was in 3's and one of only 2 non-foundationers I knew, are there many now?

Richard Ruck · Post by **Richard Ruck** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:05 am

englishangel wrote: do you have any kids RR?

Kids will bully over anything.

No I don't (and don't plan to).

I agree about kids bullying, though. All I'm saying is that, in an ideal world, peer-pressure would ensure that bullying rarely, if ever, happens, and that the community would therefore be self-policing.

However, an ideal world is just a pipe-dream isn't it?

englishangel · Post by **englishangel** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:06 am

Richard Ruck wrote:
englishangel wrote: do you have any kids RR?

Kids will bully over anything.
No I don't (and don't plan to).

I agree about kids bullying, though. All I'm saying is that, in an ideal world, peer-pressure would ensure that bullying rarely, if ever, happens, and that the community would therefore be self-policing.

However, an ideal world is just a pipe-dream isn't it?

I am afraid so, we just do our best and hope it is not our kids who are bullies/bullied.

darthmaul · Post by **darthmaul** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:27 am

The unfortunate repercussions of the anti-bullying code (which I definitely believe is essential), is that juniors feel overly confident.

There is no respect for a senior who makes a reasonable request, and this affects the seniors as a whole, who feel as if they are undervalued. This, I reckon, has caused the definite decrease in pride held by members of CH for the establishment. This is reflected in even the smallest things, such as keeping the house clean (never easy with lads), and in the larger things, such as marching, which has definitely gone down the drain.

Although the old policies kept juniors in check through force, there was something to be said about being a Grecian. Today, there is still an element of this, but in a lesser and less healthy form. There is not enough respect within the school to give juniors something to look forward, nor enough for seniors to be able to ask a junior to do something, without recieving lip.

darthmaul · Post by **darthmaul** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:31 am

Her daughter was in 3's and one of only 2 non-foundationers I knew, are there many now?

There are substantial numbers of non-f's today. At least 6 in current Grecians. About 30 in whole school.

englishangel · Post by **englishangel** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:33 am

An interesting point of view from someone who is experiencing this directly.

In the outside world you have to defer to people with seniority, so it should start at school.

And we are all moaning about being cold and watching TV.

englishangel · Post by **englishangel** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:34 am

darthmaul wrote:
Her daughter was in 3's and one of only 2 non-foundationers I knew, are there many now?
There are substantial numbers of non-f's today. At least 6 in current Grecians. About 30 in whole school.

Are they all the offspring of staff?

Are the parents OBs?

Richard Ruck · Post by **Richard Ruck** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:40 am

Perhaps the abolition of Junior and Senior Houses has had an effect here.

When we were juniors we generally avoided confrontation with seniors, let alone Grecians.

darthmaul · Post by **darthmaul** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:49 am

Richard Ruck wrote:Perhaps the abolition of Junior and Senior Houses has had an effect here.

When we were juniors we generally avoided confrontation with seniors, let alone Grecians.

This is indeed what many of my year complain about. They endured the change on their 3rd form, when they must have looked forward to being the LE.

In fact the Grecians of 99-06 (my year) have endured many removal of privileges, whilst having endured also some of the old system. They perhaps have had a hard time of things.

englishangel · Post by **englishangel** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:54 am

darthmaul wrote:
Richard Ruck wrote:Perhaps the abolition of Junior and Senior Houses has had an effect here.

When we were juniors we generally avoided confrontation with seniors, let alone Grecians.
This is indeed what many of my year complain about. They endured the change on their 3rd form, when they must have looked forward to being the LE.

In fact the Grecians of 99-06 (my year) have endured many removal of privileges, whilst having endured also some of the old system. They perhaps have had a hard time of things.

Now get on with your work so you get good A Levels and a good place at Uni

J.R. · Post by **J.R.** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:58 am

Bullying has been going in schools, (ALL types of school), since time began.

Unfortunately, teachers have had all their powers stripped away, so the bully's can carry on without fear of retribution.

Nanny State 1 - School discipline Lost.