That Death Sentence.

Richard Ruck · Post by **Richard Ruck** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 9:59 am

englishangel wrote:
marty wrote:I do not like the death sentence but at the same time I don't like the thought of having to pay taxes to keep criminals fed and watered for the rest of their days.

I think Saddam and all criminals should be put to good use and made to repay their debt to society in some way.

Also, I've heard the the latest series of I'm A Celebrity, Get Me Out Of Here will have a huge surprise. I rather suspect Mr Hussein will be putting in an appearance in the jungle at some point. Image the sight of the former dicatator washing his smalls with a huge telephone number emblazoned across his back. Vote Saddam!!!
Would you really impose a sentence of that severity?

Oh yes! AND prevent him from growing a big moustache.

cj · Post by cj » Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:47 pm

I don't suppose that he gives a toss what happens to himself. He'll view himself as a martyr and has reserved his place in the an(n)als of history.

Euterpe13 · Post by **Euterpe13** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 3:16 pm

Since Iraq is a muslim country, governed by the sharia , which enforces physical retribution for a myriad of crimes , the sentence of capital punishment for Saddam Hussein is totally logical.

I do not condone capital punishment, it's barbaric, but if we remain in context, why not let the populace stone him ? If it's good enough for adulterous women and single mothers.... That way the onus is taken out of the political sphere and placed in the hands of the people...

CNN would have a field day...

jhopgood · Post by **jhopgood** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:39 pm

Euterpe13 wrote: CNN would have a field day...

What a shame we even have to consider CNN.

More and more it seems they are insidiously directing our thoughts as to what is or is not acceptable.

Having seen them in action at first hand during the invasion of Panama, I have a cynical vision of the way they work.

Maybe I am too patriotic, but I still feel that the BBC tend to report news rather than direct it. Not a 100% but better than many others.

sejintenej · Post by **sejintenej** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:33 pm

cj wrote:I don't suppose that he gives a toss what happens to himself. He'll view himself as a martyr and has reserved his place in the an(n)als of history.

but if they deny him the extra underpants he won't get the 99 virgins which are promised to martyrs. As to why any virgin should want to give herself to a mass murderer - well, there are women and there are women (but 99 of them?) .......

sejintenej · Post by **sejintenej** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:38 pm

Euterpe13 wrote:Since Iraq is a muslim country, governed by the sharia , which enforces physical retribution for a myriad of crimes , the sentence of capital punishment for Saddam Hussein is totally logical.

I do not condone capital punishment, it's barbaric, but if we remain in context, why not let the populace stone him ? If it's good enough for adulterous women and single mothers.... That way the onus is taken out of the political sphere and placed in the hands of the people...

I see no reason why not if it is their religious law. OTOH it gives the opportunity for a rescue attempt. I don't agree about "putting it in the hands of the people"; "the people" can be whipped up into a murderous frenzy by clever speakers (such as Hi**er) - the sentence must always be handed down by a court considering the case in cold blood - not a lynch mob.

Euterpe13 · Post by **Euterpe13** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:45 am

sejintenej wrote:
Euterpe13 wrote:Since Iraq is a muslim country, governed by the sharia , which enforces physical retribution for a myriad of crimes , the sentence of capital punishment for Saddam Hussein is totally logical.

I do not condone capital punishment, it's barbaric, but if we remain in context, why not let the populace stone him ? If it's good enough for adulterous women and single mothers.... That way the onus is taken out of the political sphere and placed in the hands of the people...
I see no reason why not if it is their religious law. OTOH it gives the opportunity for a rescue attempt. I don't agree about "putting it in the hands of the people"; "the people" can be whipped up into a murderous frenzy by clever speakers (such as Hi**er) - the sentence must always be handed down by a court considering the case in cold blood - not a lynch mob.

Ah, but this is exactly what happens - " adulterous" women ( not men, you will note ) are condemned by an islamic court and THEN stoned... all very legal and above board --- whether or not it is civilised is another conversation entirely.

sejintenej · Post by **sejintenej** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:58 pm

Euterpe13 wrote:Ah, but this is exactly what happens - " adulterous" women ( not men, you will note ) are condemned by an islamic court and THEN stoned... all very legal and above board --- whether or not it is civilised is another conversation entirely.

CARE - this is gruespome so don't read if easily shocked or under 30

Not quite. Someone from the head office of a company I worked for sent a video by email of the punishment of the man; in the marketplace his "instrument" was placed on the wooden block and as he and his woman looked on the sword descended. The film showed the end two or so inches roll onto the ground.

Happy · Post by **Happy** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:14 am

Yowser.
I was shocked to find that the UK still hands out the death penalty - hanging apparently - as the House of Lords is the final appeal court for the West Indies.
Does this change anyone's views?

graham · Post by **graham** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:46 pm

Excellent quote from November's VIZ, in the top tips section:

Isn't it ironic that those who call for the reintroduction of hanging are the same people who say of paedophiles and killers, "hanging is too good for them". Why won't they make up their right-wing minds?

loringa · Post by **loringa** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:53 pm

Euterpe13 wrote:Since Iraq is a muslim country, governed by the sharia , which enforces physical retribution for a myriad of crimes , the sentence of capital punishment for Saddam Hussein is totally logical.

The majority of Iraqis may be Muslim but Iraq's has always been a secular society and Sharia Law is not practised. The single most controversial isue with the production of the post-Saddam constitution was whether or not to describe Iraq as an Islamic Republic. I don't know what the final decision was, however, I am pretty certain that Sharia Law was neither adopted nor officially recognised by the State, not even in the sem-formal hybrid form adopted by countries such as Pakistan.

Euterpe13 · Post by **Euterpe13** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 4:04 pm

" First: The Federal Supreme Court is an independent judicial body, financially and administratively.

Second: The Federal Supreme Court shall be made up of number of judges, and experts in Islamic jurisprudence and law experts whose number, the method of their selection and the work of the court shall be determined by a law enacted by a two third majority of the members of the Council of Representatives."

"First: Islam is the official religion of the State and it is a fundamental source of legislation:

A. No law that contradicts the established provisions of Islam may be established."

Form the official web-site of the Iraqi Government.... if that does not indicate a recognition of islamic law, then I can't read...