Mediums/Spiritualists - "for entertainment only"??

Anything that doesn't fit anywhere else, and is NON CH related - chat about the weather, or anything else that takes your fancy.

Moderator: Moderators

Post Reply
User avatar
jtaylor
Forum Administrator
Posts: 1887
Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2004 12:32 am
Real Name: Julian Taylor
Location: Wantage, OXON
Contact:

Mediums/Spiritualists - "for entertainment only"??

Post by jtaylor »

From:- http://www.freeinfidel.com/2008/05/26/s ... rtainment/
The UK Government has passed a law which means that fortune-tellers, mediums, spiritualists and other peddlers of the supernatural must label their services as ‘entertainment only’. I can think of a few other organisations that should do that.
And http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7416809.stm

So will this apply to other unprovable activities/faiths? Church services, religious funerals, marriages?

If not, why not, and what's the difference?
Julian Taylor-Gadd
Leigh Hunt 1985-1992
Image
Founder of The Unofficial CH Forum
https://www.grovegeeks.co.uk - IT Support and website design for home, small businesses and charities.
User avatar
Mid A 15
Button Grecian
Posts: 3189
Joined: Thu May 19, 2005 1:38 pm
Real Name: Claude Rains
Location: The Patio Of England (Kent)

Re: Mediums/Spiritualists - "for entertainment only"??

Post by Mid A 15 »

jtaylor wrote:
From:- http://www.freeinfidel.com/2008/05/26/s ... rtainment/
The UK Government has passed a law which means that fortune-tellers, mediums, spiritualists and other peddlers of the supernatural must label their services as ‘entertainment only’. I can think of a few other organisations that should do that.
And http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7416809.stm

So will this apply to other unprovable activities/faiths? Church services, religious funerals, marriages?

If not, why not, and what's the difference?
The operative word is TRADER.

Fortune tellers, mediums etc charge for their services and there is evidence that some of them exploit vulnerable, recently bereaved people.

Churches do not charge for their services. There maybe a voluntary collection which you can contribute to if you wish but there is no element of compulsory payment.

Therein lies a major distinction in my humble opinion!
Ma A, Mid A 65 -72
User avatar
englishangel
Forum Moderator
Posts: 6956
Joined: Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:22 pm
Real Name: Mary Faulkner (Vincett)
Location: Amersham, Buckinghamshire

Re: Mediums/Spiritualists - "for entertainment only"??

Post by englishangel »

In fact if you go to many Free churches they don't even call it a collection, it is an Offering.

Incidentally on "The Weakest Link" on Saturday the 'Team' consisted of these noddies.
"If a man speaks, and there isn't a woman to hear him, is he still wrong?"
User avatar
jtaylor
Forum Administrator
Posts: 1887
Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2004 12:32 am
Real Name: Julian Taylor
Location: Wantage, OXON
Contact:

Re: Mediums/Spiritualists - "for entertainment only"??

Post by jtaylor »

Interesting!
And yet "tithing" is encouraged by the Church?

I like the Richard Dawkins quote "You're an atheist too - I just go one God further"

Who are Christians (and I count myself as one) to say that Spiritualists are any more wrong than they are?
Christian's choose one form of unprovable belief, spiritualists another.
Christian's often ridicule those who believe they talk to the dead - but what is Jesus if not a dead person, who rose again?

Interestingly selective!

J
Julian Taylor-Gadd
Leigh Hunt 1985-1992
Image
Founder of The Unofficial CH Forum
https://www.grovegeeks.co.uk - IT Support and website design for home, small businesses and charities.
User avatar
J.R.
Forum Moderator
Posts: 15835
Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:53 pm
Real Name: John Rutley
Location: Dorking, Surrey

Re: Mediums/Spiritualists - "for entertainment only"??

Post by J.R. »

Relatives of No 1 Daughters partner are regular visitors to a local medium.

I have to say she remarkably accurate !

Unfortunately the charlatans give the 'profession' a bad name.

What about hypnosis ?
John Rutley. Prep B & Coleridge B. 1958-1963.
User avatar
ben ashton
Grecian
Posts: 504
Joined: Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:11 pm
Real Name: ben ashton
Location: Woolwich, London
Contact:

Re: Mediums/Spiritualists - "for entertainment only"??

Post by ben ashton »

My housemate's girlfriend is a medium from time to time, also does tarot, body spin, reiki etc....

She once successfully reiki'ed a car door!
Cherish pity; lest you drive an angel from your door

LaB 1, MidB 40, 97-02
sejintenej
Button Grecian
Posts: 4127
Joined: Tue Feb 08, 2005 12:19 pm
Real Name: David Brown ColA '52-'61
Location: Essex

Re: Mediums/Spiritualists - "for entertainment only"??

Post by sejintenej »

J.R. wrote: Unfortunately the charlatans give the 'profession' a bad name.

What about hypnosis ?
That is a branch / offshoot of psychology (or whar=tever) which is supposed to be a sort of medicine; perhaps you got the above two sentences in the wrong order?

I personally do not regard hypnosis as a game, entertainment or whatever; on the rare occasions I have used it then the use has been for serious matters such as pain avoidance when a loose milk tooth was being pulled or control of bleeding.
Having more money doesn't make you happier. I have 50 million dollars
but I'm just as happy as when I had 48 million.
(Arnold Schwarzenegger!)
User avatar
J.R.
Forum Moderator
Posts: 15835
Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:53 pm
Real Name: John Rutley
Location: Dorking, Surrey

Re: Mediums/Spiritualists - "for entertainment only"??

Post by J.R. »

Are you saying you have the power of hypnosis, David ?

Do you remember Bennett in Coleridge B, (sadly no longer with us) ? He used to hypnotise people in the dorms ! Rather a strange and eccentric fellow but highly likeable !
John Rutley. Prep B & Coleridge B. 1958-1963.
matthew
GE (Great Erasmus)
Posts: 122
Joined: Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:29 pm
Real Name: Matthew Powell
Location: Toronto, Canada

Re: Mediums/Spiritualists - "for entertainment only"??

Post by matthew »

Mid A 15 wrote:The operative word is TRADER.

Fortune tellers, mediums etc charge for their services and there is evidence that some of them exploit vulnerable, recently bereaved people.

Churches do not charge for their services. There maybe a voluntary collection which you can contribute to if you wish but there is no element of compulsory payment.

Therein lies a major distinction in my humble opinion!
So it'll apply to the "Church" of Scientology, then.

This *will* be a fun one to watch.
Post Reply